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    Quote Originally Posted by maldorordiscord View Post
    my evidence was not static execution it was a flexible one.
    examples:
    quat-er is a english word?
    quarter goes in the same direction
    quattro as a word is also used in the english language
    same for quattuor
    also the word quat is in use in modern english to:
    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=quat
    " QUAT
    Slang for Quarter usually used in drug circles.
    'Yo, you got a quat fo' tree five?'
    Translation: "Pardon me, but do you still have a Quarter of (name your favorite drug here) for three hundred and fifty dollars?""
    and there are more examples for the use of "quat" in meaning of 4 example:
    "a quaternary compound" or in german: "aus vier Teilen bestehend"
    quaternary=is built on 4 pieces
    source for this example: http://www.dicts.info/define.php?word=quat
    another example in the same meaning: "the quaternary period of geologic time extends from the end of the tertiary period to the present"
    another example for the meaning of four is : "quaternate leaves"
    Source: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Quaternate "quaternate - consisting of or especially arranged in sets of four"
    another example is "Quaternary ammonium cations, also known as quats" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaternary_ammonium_cation
    this prove qarts is the short version of Quaternary and the german version of this word is: "aus vier Teilen bestehend" and if you translate this to english word by word: "consisting of four parts"

    this means There is a word "quat" in the English language related to the number four!
    You show successfully the existence of words that begin with "quart" and "quat", but that doesn't mean that a a word quat exist in relation to the number four. There is no such thing as a quat-core CPU, regardless how long you babble about it. Get over it, install a spellchecker.

    first integer SIMD was MMX (integer-32bit): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMX_%28instruction_set%29
    one of the first floating-point SIMD was 3dnow(floating point 32bit): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3DNow!
    MMX+3Dnow in 64bit is called SSE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streaming_SIMD_Extensions
    another vector SIMD standard is AltiVec http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/AltiVec
    SSE4 is 128 bit vector then and AVX is 256bit vector: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVX
    and the Integer extensions of the AVX generation is called FMA http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/FMA_x86

    comparison to Loongson: Loongson 3A only do have 64bit-128bit vector Loongson 3B do have 256bit Vector and 256bit integer SIMD and the Longson 3C do have 2pices of 512bit vector SIMD per core and 1 piece of 512bit integer SIMD.

    In my knowledge the Loongson's SIMD units try to compatible with the ARM one:
    Loongson use the Vector unit from ARM : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_arc...IMD_.28NEON.29
    on the level: ARMv8 64-bit VFP and advanced SIMD (NEON) standard
    I know what SIMD is. Part of the education for my job was microprocessor technic. Your statement was:
    You can handle 8 SSE (vector) 64bit instructions in 1 single 512bit vector simd instruction.
    You realize that SSE is a type of SIMD, but you can't simply interchange them? So please show me a link where clearly is stated that the 512 bit SIMD unit (which in fact are 2 256 Bit units) can handle 8 SSE instructions at a time. Would be funny anyways, SSE uses 128 Bit registers and 8*128 are 1024 and not 512.
    By the way, the ARM SIMD instructions use 8 and 16 bit packed together in a 32 bit register and are not compatible to SSE.

    You should stop to "imagine" your facts, you are making yourself looking stupid, Qaridarium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TobiSGD View Post
    You show successfully the existence of words that begin with "quart" and "quat", but that doesn't mean that a a word quat exist in relation to the number four. There is no such thing as a quat-core CPU, regardless how long you babble about it. Get over it, install a spellchecker.
    i just cut out for you what you think what is not the direct word "quat" just to help you out.

    quat is in use in modern English:
    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=quat
    " QUAT
    Slang for Quarter usually used in drug circles.
    'Yo, you got a quat fo' tree five?'
    Translation: "Pardon me, but do you still have a Quarter of (name your favorite drug here) for three hundred and fifty dollars?""

    Quat is the short therm of Quaternary what means "consisting of four parts" source:
    "Quaternary ammonium cations, also known as quats" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaternary_ammonium_cation

    This means there is a word "quat" in the English language related to the number four!
    Now check my usage of the word:
    Quat-core is the short version of: Quaternary-core --> consisting of four parts-core

    Quote Originally Posted by TobiSGD View Post
    I know what SIMD is. Part of the education for my job was microprocessor technic. Your statement was:You realize that SSE is a type of SIMD, but you can't simply interchange them? So please show me a link where clearly is stated that the 512 bit SIMD unit [...]
    By the way, the ARM SIMD instructions use 8 and 16 bit packed together in a 32 bit register and are not compatible to SSE.
    Now you mix up stuff because its basically a vector processor http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vector_processor
    And you can translate the instructions in another format.
    Because the vector connections are linearly linked.
    You mix up the format with the vector processing them self but you can translate the format and do the vector processing with the same result.
    This translation work drain your performance to 70%....

    Quote Originally Posted by TobiSGD View Post
    (which in fact are 2 256 Bit units) can handle 8 SSE instructions at a time. Would be funny anyways, SSE uses 128 Bit registers and 8*128 are 1024 and not 512.
    What the hell you talking about ? the Loongson 3B do have 2x256bit per core vector units and the Loongson 3C do have 2x512bit vector units. The 3C do have your "1024bit" in vector.

    Quote Originally Posted by TobiSGD View Post
    You should stop to "imagine" your facts, you are making yourself looking stupid, Qaridarium.
    Big insulting words for the fact you lost on all tropics the word "quat" do exist in the English language connected to the number 4 its the short version of Quaternary. You also can translate the format of a vector instruction because the vector processing them self can calculate the same result after the translation.

    Now who looks more stupid ? Counted on the facts, you look stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smitty3268 View Post
    Q is Q'ing it up again, I see.

    Or is it now M M'ing it up?
    Are you blind? I'm not the spelling/grammar Nazi.
    He is incapable to ignore a single word what doesn't fit to his opinion of his spelling/grammar Nazi being.
    Normal people just read the content and not the typos.
    Also typos isn't fully right because quat is the short version of quaternary what does transport the same meaning of quad-core (quat-core=quaternary-core=consisting of four parts-core).

    He just wants to dispute and fight. This has nothing to do with Q.

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    Just show us a picture using your beloved cpu and play some games. wine will certainly NOT work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kano View Post
    Just show us a picture using your beloved cpu and play some games. wine will certainly NOT work.
    Its basically the same like using wine on ARM : http://wiki.winehq.org/ARM

    You can just run a x86 linux in a Virtual machine and then run wine in this emulation.
    example for someone who do this : http://myloongson.blogspot.de/2007/0...-loongson.html and this was back in 2007...

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    I want to see YOU. you always talk about it and you do NOT own it. You dream too much!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kano View Post
    I want to see YOU. you always talk about it and you do NOT own it. You dream too much!
    I already did it on emulated x86 hardware to run windows95 and windows98 back in 1995 with a PowerPC 603 75MHz clock speed to play games.

    Now what?

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    Next you will say it emulated 3d hardware. Most likely you also talked to aliens and met god himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kano View Post
    Next you will say it emulated 3d hardware. Most likely you also talked to aliens and met god himself.
    last time I checked emulators there was a software OpenGL renderer in the Linux versions and also a software direct X renderer in windows7.
    Also virtual-box for example just use wine-libs to translate direct X calls into OpenGL calls and use the graphic card to accelerate it.
    Now you will claim that this does not run games fast and sure its slow.
    Sure you can drop the PC as a gaming platform and buy a Xbox instead and a Xbox also do not run x86 Intel compatible hardware!.

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    Well the first xbox was x86 and the next ps4 will use x86 as well.Certainly you can use consoles with power ppc/cell core for games - but those do NOT run wine. You can forget Vbox for 3d games, vmware might be a tiny bit better, but still crap. Those systems are not meant for hardcore gaming.

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