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    Default Gabe Newell Showing Valve On Linux To Partners

    Phoronix: Gabe Newell Showing Valve On Linux To Partners

    Here's an interesting, but very brief, Gabe Newell interview from E3 where he responds to a Linux question...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTEzMTY

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    If VALVE really manages to convince lots of their 'partners' to support Linux, this will be a big win for us.
    Maybe this is something we should even more look forward to than 'just' having the VALVE catalogue ported to Linux.

    Then again, what I don't get is why VALVE hasn't managed to convince those partners to port their games to Mac OS?
    What can be VALVEs strong arguments to make them support Linux while most didn't with Mac OS? (If it is not a 'SteamBox')
    AFAIK only a tiny fraction of all Steam titles are available on Mac OS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by entropy View Post
    If VALVE really manages to convince lots of their 'partners' to support Linux, this will be a big win for us.
    Maybe this is something we should even more look forward to than 'just' having the VALVE catalogue ported to Linux.

    Then again, what I don't get is why VALVE hasn't managed to convince those partners to port their games to Mac OS?
    What can be VALVEs strong arguments to make them support Linux while most didn't with Mac OS? (If it is not a 'SteamBox')
    AFAIK only a tiny fraction of all Steam titles are available on Mac OS.
    Even if we get nearly as many games for linux as there are on the mac, it's already a huge win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M1kkko View Post
    Even if we get nearly as many games for linux as there are on the mac, it's already a huge win.
    I hope that anything on Mac might also end up on Linux, since both will use OpenGL. DirectX titles will be the real issue.

    My big problem is getting my Sixaxis to work in Ubuntu. It appears to connect fine but not one button works.

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    Default Steam Linux will be better than Steam for Mac

    Steam on Linux is going to be superior to Steam on Mac. I own a Macintosh machine and I already know why the Linux version will be superior: Aspyr Media Inc. See ID Software handled their own linux ports, so there will be Quake 1/2/3/4 ET/ET:QW/Doom 1/2/3 all available on Linux from day 1. On Macintosh, Aspyr are trying to force people to their own service, so none of the Aspyr ported games are available on Steam (no Quake packs or Doom). Unreal Tournament 99, UT2k3, UT2k4, Raptor: Call of the Shadows, all the Dosbox + Steam titles should all run on day 1. If someone can get the licenses sorted, Descent 1/2/3 all have native ports. So there's a lot of titles Linux will pickup which Mac won't. By having a bigger launch catalogue of AAA titles Linux Steam has a lot more to offer the FPS player than Steam for Mac does. Basically the only huge FPS games that don't have ports are Battlefield and CoD, and CoD is Quake engine based anyway. Exciting times for Linux gaming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MonkeyPaw View Post
    My big problem is getting my Sixaxis to work in Ubuntu. It appears to connect fine but not one button works.
    Huh? They're standard HID joysticks when connected via USB. If your PS3 isn't on and connected to the controller, plugging it in via USB should "just work" since the day the PS3 came out (perhaps earlier).

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    So we have...

    - A video driver debacle
    - A kernel that changes every three minutes
    - A sound system that consistently produces audio skips
    - Window managers and desktop environments that simply don't work

    Now ask oneself... what could possibly go wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnc View Post
    So we have...

    - A video driver debacle
    - A kernel that changes every three minutes
    - A sound system that consistently produces audio skips
    - Window managers and desktop environments that simply don't work

    Now ask oneself... what could possibly go wrong?
    - Steam on Linux may encourage the development of drivers
    - Donno
    - Donno
    - Wayland (but I don't think it will be finished soon (maybe in two years or so))

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnc View Post
    So we have...

    - A video driver debacle
    Not a problem for most people using the blobs, especially the Nvidia one.

    Quote Originally Posted by johnc View Post
    - A kernel that changes every three minutes
    When was the last time a game was rendered unusable by a new version of the kernel?

    Quote Originally Posted by johnc View Post
    - A sound system that consistently produces audio skips
    - Window managers and desktop environments that simply don't work

    Now ask oneself... what could possibly go wrong?
    Those last two are simply not true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plombo View Post
    Those last two are simply not true.
    The last one is. When I run a game in Linux, the desktop gets fucked up if the game doesn't run at the same resolution as the desktop. If I alt+tab from the game, the resolution doesn't change. Good luck using a system like that.

    Linux is not for games, period.

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