Ubuntu Still Aims For Wayland System Compositor

[bulletxt]

The Linux Desktop has so many issues that the boot screen issue is really low priority. I wouldn't even call it an issue.

If you want I could create a list of at least 100 VERY IMPORTANT issues the Linux Desktop has. But of course, "looks" are more important right?

[johnc]

The Linux Desktop has so many issues that the boot screen issue is really low priority. I wouldn't even call it an issue.

If you want I could create a list of at least 100 VERY IMPORTANT issues the Linux Desktop has. But of course, "looks" are more important right?

It's definitely low priority. It's just always disappointing when you see regressions between one version and the next.

[89c51]

The Linux Desktop has so many issues that the boot screen issue is really low priority. I wouldn't even call it an issue.

If you want I could create a list of at least 100 VERY IMPORTANT issues the Linux Desktop has. But of course, "looks" are more important right?

"Looks" is what users interact with -be it the console or a DE- so IMO its almost as important as the technical stuff. Noone (period) would marry a fat, really ugly woman just because she functions properly.


Personally i care a lot about visuals and user experience. And the situation is horrid. Be it icons and themes, be it the brain damage of the DE UX developers (gnome especially), be it cursors blinking, blank screens and all those little things that need polishing and people don't seem to care.

[johnc]

"Looks" is what users interact with -be it the console or a DE- so IMO its almost as important as the technical stuff. Noone (period) would marry a fat, really ugly woman just because she functions properly.


Personally i care a lot about visuals and user experience. And the situation is horrid. Be it icons and themes, be it the brain damage of the DE UX developers (gnome especially), be it cursors blinking, blank screens and all those little things that need polishing and people don't seem to care.

Part of the problem is that the community tries to polish some stuff up and add some features and just as things are looking like they almost pass muster, the head devs (gnome, etc.) declare, "Okay boys! Throw everything out; we're starting over from scratch!"

And that's exactly what I expect Wayland to be.

[liam]

I noticed the Wayland mailing list stagnated a lot.
For a long time there were like 10-30 messages a day, now it's between 1-10 a day, or none, even during non-weekends. Are they preparing some major release behind the scene or gone on vacation..?

A lot of the devs are based in US, and this week we had our independence day (July 4), and it occured in the middle of the week. It's not uncommon to take the entire week off as a result.
Also, 1.0 IS supposed to be arriving later this year, so they've only got a few months left. Once they finalize the input protocol, I think they're mostly finished with the outlines, if not all the detail.

[BO$$]

I think the next version should be called 12.04 since the current 12.04 is too much of a mess to call it official...Seriously what is going on? Ubuntu used to actually work. Now it's bugs and inconsistencies that don't actually get fixed.

[MonkeyPaw]

I think the next version should be called 12.04 since the current 12.04 is too much of a mess to call it official...Seriously what is going on? Ubuntu used to actually work. Now it's bugs and inconsistencies that don't actually get fixed.

What doesn't work? I have it on a laptop and it runs just fine.

[BO$$]

From the top of my head:

- In gnome 3 classic when clicking icons in 'quick launch' with compiz active they start that growing bigger animation and the last frame is a black square

- Glipper crashes randomly

- The battery icon indicator doesn't show no matter what I select in system settings -> power

- The skype icon indicator doesn't show correctly (it has a white bar under it)

And I could go on...

[asdx]

I get the sinking feeling that this is going to be PulseAudio all over again.

STFU bitch. Fuck off.

[garegin]

people miss the fundamental problem and the root cause of the audio/video stack sucking in unix for 20 years. because unix/linux is primarily a server platform there is simply no incentive for the big names to make the a/v stack better. you think you need color calibration or anti-aliasing when you are running oracledb or apache on a cluster. games and directx are really the impetus on windows. and audio apps/final cut on the mac make apple make sure that the audio and the video are top notch. until that changes I don't see linux having graphics on par with windows.