I'd love to see the energy put into Eclipse CDT which works for Linux, Mac, and Windows.
Originally Posted by smani
#1 wish. This is exactly what I would of said, release old codebase.
Originally Posted by Pickle
The financing of the drivers seems a bit out of scope but I wouldn't be against it.
Most everything else you touched in your article.
One thing I would love to see however is some wine finessing for games that wont run native but do run on wine. Skyrim made steam a lot of money and works great with wine. So do the double fist method port what you can , ensure wine does the rest and your Lin....*cough... Ubuntu client will be perfect.
If Valve could somehow get devs off the DirectX Kool-aid it would be a huge home run for open standards development.
Strangely enough the closest thing to that would be Gambas, but that is only targeting the Visual Basic crowd.
Originally Posted by Detructor
If they do this what motivation would there be for these developers to ever go native? WINE may be an impressive technical achievement (even though it can be extremely frustrating at times) but it's greater effects are always something to worry about. It is the same reason people were worried about LIMBO; why would developers ever go native if you can just wrap your original Windows binary in a compatibility layer and be done with it?
Originally Posted by Neco-Link
As for general things they could do, all I can do is echo what other people and said and say that I would like to see improvements to the FOSS graphics drivers. That is all.
Last edited by Hamish Wilson; 07-17-2012 at 04:03 PM.
Doesn't this means that they will have to write a new and better open standard??
Originally Posted by johnc
I feel a bit sorry for Valve, I have really never heard of a developer that had to FIX the OS they were working on before porting their software. I mean its understandable, graphics drivers and documentation for them have been in a sorry state, proprietary and open source. And x.org just plain sucks, so thats something else im hoping will change in the near future. But yeah, running into things like no S3TC support because of legal reasons, valves gonna run into a lot of those lol. Im also torn on them integrating some way for me to play the games that haven't been ported through wine, just some small back end that can install those games in the directory where wine is, this would be convenient but like everything with wine, it might just discourage devs from porting.
Nahh... There are plenty of AAA titles that aren't written in DirectX.
Originally Posted by 89c51
I have been using Linux almost as long as it has been around and I am a huge Linux supporter. But What I think they should do is forget the Linux market atleast for now. I see two things comming and neither of them are good for Linux. First AMD and NVidia keep screwing the open source driver development meaning that any one using those drivers will always have horrible performance. This will translate to "Linux Sucks!!!" Especially when the MS PR departments start showing performance comparisons between the two. The other thing that will happen is people who other wise don't have the skill to debug some thing as complex as the video stack start installing the blobs and their systems become useless or they get frustrated because it doesn't work at all or it just leaves their machines buggy. This leads to another big black eye for Linux. Eventually Valve leaves the market and real graphics on Linux is crippled for another 5 years.
Don't get me wrong I am grateful for what Valve is trying to do. But I also think they can't succeed with out a change of attitude from the big two graphics companies that likely won't happen until another competor enters the graphics market. Bottom line is NVidia and AMD don't want graphics on Linux to suceed as it just makes their lives more difficult if they have to properly support another OS.
I don't understand why all the fuss about wine. To me it really doens't matter if the game is wrapped around wine or not. What matter is *quality*, plan and simple. If linux is a attractive platform that a dev wants to target, then he must offer games that work in every aspect. If he can do that through wine or not, I don't really care. I'd even like wine to be a part of it because there are plenty of really great older games, which will never be ported and work right now on linux beacause of wine.
Originally Posted by squirtsoda