calling me an appletard doesn't bother me, sorry if you thought it would.
no dice, champ!
sorry if your not used to people calling you on your crap, but if no one is actually going to monitor these forums, maybe a few of us need to put shmuck's like you in their place.
@everyone else - yup, we definitely broke asdx' brain.
Last edited by ninez; 07-25-2012 at 06:03 PM.
Or feel free to insult me, but please don't insult nouveau anymore.
I just don't get why you guys say you love Linux and open source so much but then you call projects like nouveau "garbage".
Fine, use your blob all you want, but please don't insult nouveau anymore.
Or at least if you appreciate open source, take the time to try nouveau from time to time and report issues if you find any. Why is this so hard to comprehend?
Really? Because I was over looking on the AMD developer site and all I saw was 3 or 4 docs that were 4 or 5 year old. I would love to give the docs for SI a read. Can you point me to them please?AMD do release specifications for developers
did you even read what i wrote? do you have rocks in your head??? I did NOT say nouveau is garbage, nor was my intention to insult it's developers, it just happens to be reality that nouveau is a very poor quality sub-standard driver (or in my words garbage) compared to the blob. that doesn't mean nouveau IS garbage, it just means when comparing it to the blob, it is. - there is no insult to nouveau there.
i mean look at this bullshit you pointed in the other thread, when a Nvidia Linux developer posted;
you are absolutely brutal, asdx.Originally Posted by asdx
and lets not forget your earlier post telling someone to go and die in a fire :\
people like you do a great disservice to the linux community and the larger OSS community.
Last edited by ninez; 07-25-2012 at 06:50 PM.
AMD didn't release any noteworthy documentation after an initial dump a few years ago. My requests for documentation weren't really answered either, I only heard lousy excuses by AMD people. This is not how you motivate people to contribute... So, actually, AMD is not much worse than Nvidia in this regard.
What's also strange is that some people have very warped views about the level of support the open drivers provide. People convinced me that Brazos APUs work fine nowadays, and in turn I bought a Brazos machine - only to find out that power management is completely defunct and that 2D performance is very bad.
Please consider choosing another word at least, it wouldn't be offensive if you say at least that "nouveau has inferior 3D performance than the blob" or something similar, which is to be expected anyway from a RE'd driver. I think you realize that nouveau is 100% made from RE'd code/effort and without the support/documentation from nvidia, right?
So please put yourself in the position from those developers who are working very hard day/night to give us an open-source alternative to the blob.
I think the nouveau developers deserve all of our recognition for the amazing work they've already done.
A few years ago people were complaining that there wasn't much innovation going on Linux, these days we have things like Wayland and people come and say "I hope Wayland DIAF already". WTF?
I mean I have no problem with you (or anyone else) using the blob, but please people, don't insult projects like nouveau and Wayland. They are very good things for Linux.
But I apologize for that, sorry.
Again, I get offended and touchy when somebody insults open source projects.
We should be thanking and supporting the open-source developers instead of being against them and cursing them or their projects.
Last edited by asdx; 07-25-2012 at 07:01 PM.
The latest docs seem to be Cayman/NI from November '11.
SI is missing yet.
I can only imagine the headaches that will be coming from trying to configure a hybrid X / Wayland system.
Unless I'm wrong and everything is smooth-sailing, it's going to be a major stumbling block for further acceptance of Linux on the desktop.