Even Linus Torvalds agrees that the nvidia blob is a piece of absolute shit/trash and that it has to die.
Everyone but you and the other idiot (johnc) agrees that when NOT using the blob and when using the open source drivers (nouveau, intel, radeon), the desktop feels so much better, smooth and responsive.
Blobs need to die, plain and simple. They are the cause of all problems we have.
And it's not zealotry, it's simply pointing out the obvious.
Fuck off now.
P.S. and yes, I do support gaming on Linux and I'm glad Valve is doing something about it, I just don't support the blobs and I hope they die.
Last edited by asdx; 07-25-2012 at 01:28 PM.
I sure hope it solves all X problems related to the old one:
Would like to be able to minimize and move window of unresponsive applications easily (while they are unresponsive).
It would be really practical to get a working replacement for X.Org Server with a STABLE API!!!
When I see the amd open drivers putting $500+ cards to good use, then I can complain that nvidia needs to open up too. Until then...
Last edited by ninez; 07-25-2012 at 01:52 PM.
The problem with blobs is when they get in the way of developers, or when they cause issues for desktop usage (animations slowing down, poor 2D support, etc), etc.
That's why I am against blobs, not entirely for philosophical reasons, but I strongly believe that we'll be much better off by having an entirely better open-source integrated platform. We actually have that now with open-source drivers.
Also, it's obvious by now that blobs don't play very well with Linux on the desktop, and if Nouveau had the 3D-acceleration that the blob has, that's going to be better for everyone.
Yes half a decade of broken audio and counting.This has the potential to be more disruptive than the transition to PulseAudio, except without the nominal features that PA brought..
I would be very sceptical about extrapolating a poll on this site to the community at large.Phoronix surveys show this. Half AMD users use fglrx.
As for NVidia I seem to remember reading an article by some one high up over there that said NVidia would never support Wayland because it isn't used by BSD, Solaris etc.
As for Wayland it's self. I would put it like this. I would rather have the devs working on getting Wayland out rather than working on propping up the broken blob industry. Until Wayland has some thing usable shipping in a distro very few people are going to care. If you want people to support Wayland you have to get it in front of them and let them see what it can do. After that the question of whether to support the blobs becomes a question of how crippled does Wayland have to become to do that. If they can just put a stub in and leave all the gore in a separate package then it isn't so bad. If it means tripling the amount of code, killing the performance and losing a year of development then that is an entirely different beast. Only the devs can answer how that would look.
Is there a lack of software on platforms that use blobs? E.g., Windows, OS X or Android?The problem with blobs is when they get in the way of developers, or when they cause issues for desktop usage (animations slowing down, poor 2D support, etc), etc.
But the facts show that actually the opposite of what you believe is true. The most successful consumer-oriented products are not fully open source.That's why I am against blobs, not entirely for philosophical reasons, but I strongly believe that we'll be much better off by having an entirely better open-source integrated platform. We actually have that now with open-source drivers.
Do whatever you want with your hardware, that's none of my business. I'm not trying to tell you how you should use your hardware, I'm simply trying to point out that we should be more understanding with developers.
What if one day the developers give up with what they are doing because they are tired of the pain that is Nvidia and other corporate people, and they realize nobody gives a shit about what they think/feel of their own project.
Would you like to move back to Windows in that case? Are you going to resume their development efforts?
Please think about it. This is all I'm asking for.
But fine, keep supporting nvidia and their blob until they last. We'll be ignoring blob users and support wayland/nouveau and move Linux development forward.
Last edited by asdx; 07-25-2012 at 02:20 PM.
Have fun with Wayland. I don't see it going anywhere until it supports the binary blobs in some way. Simply because those customer's who do spend a lot of money on Linux by buying support contracts usually need proper GL or GPU Computing support.