People incorrectly assume that AMD drivers suck. They don't.

[curaga]

@Dandel

Are you affiliated with AMD?

[t.s.]

If you are running unstable, then it is your fault.

Nope. I ran testing debian testing.

This is why good bug reporters are needed... This tells me absolutely nothing. The only thing I know is your on Debian, and this is useless. The only things I can figure out is the following...

Debian 4.0 ( etch ) or newer.
32 or 64bit os ( also matters )
no updates.

I don't plan to reported it, sorry. But my rig is:
Debian Wheezy (testing) 64 bit. It seg faults, with 12-6 catalyst. I've tried Kano script and manual install with same result.

[Gps4l]

I had allot of help, but no success.
Yes it was the (then) latest close source driver.

The default drivers installed on suse for my hardware, worked fine in FF but no 3D.

I really hope to have more luck with ubuntu and the 12.6

[Kano]

Just run:

wget -NP /tmp http://kanotix.com/files/fix/oss-test/purge-binary-driver.sh
sh /tmp/purge-binary-driver.sh

Then you can activate sid and install fglrx from there. There is a point release which works.

[PsynoKhi0]

Why in the name of Popeye should anyone have to "setup their rig" to get _anything_ working properly anymore, much less basic media functionality?

Indeed, one can hope we'll some day be able to get everything working out-of-the-box, though let's be realistic here.
Also, given all the codecs and third party stuff one has to cram in their box... What exactly is "basic media functionality"?

[PsynoKhi0]

I am willing, because I like linux, to over look some things.
But not even be able to use firefox normally....
A freaking web browser, and my quad core at 3.2, with above vid card,
cant even scroll s web-page without horrible lag, after installing catalyst drivers.

Were the drivers installed correctly?

On openSUSE (which I've ben using since 11.1 or so, with fglrx):
http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/SUSE/openSUSE

Personally I don't blacklist radeon, I just switch to a tty and issue "init 3" as root prior to installing the drivers. Otherwise there is a conflict of some sort with the GL libraries, and 3D hardware acceleration doesn't work.

[Dandel]

@Dandel

Are you affiliated with AMD?

No, Just a developer that knows how to debug things and fix the issues.

Nope. I ran testing debian testing.


I don't plan to reported it, sorry. But my rig is:
Debian Wheezy (testing) 64 bit. It seg faults, with 12-6 catalyst. I've tried Kano script and manual install with same result.

Does not tell me what the hardware looks like. This is part of why AMD bundled the "atigetsysteminfo.sh" script that should be located at "/usr/share/fglrx/"

Indeed, one can hope we'll some day be able to get everything working out-of-the-box, though let's be realistic here.
Also, given all the codecs and third party stuff one has to cram in their box... What exactly is "basic media functionality"?

"basic media functionality" could mean simply being able to play mp3 files for all some people are concerned... My guess is the reasonable ability to play 1920x1080 videos without stutter while having vertical sync enabled.

However, some People would foolishly expect all media files to play regardless of system specifications. A desktop with 2.5gHz to 3.0gHz is useless if the System Memory is slow ( DDR2 or DDR memory).

[Kano]

@Dandel

It is impossible that fglrx 12-6 runs with debian wheezy without libpciaccess hack.

[Panix]

I think the OP is clueless and so are these other ATI/AMD fanatics. I checked out a Thinkpad T500 laptop and the suspend doesn't work. I can't help think graphics drivers has something to do with it. If one booted up Windows 7 with the same hardware and tried suspend (place the lid down and then lift it up), it would probably wake up properly. I guess people here who own ATI hardware just don't do anything with their computer. Maybe they just stare at it all day or play the odd game that doesn't require much or something.

ATI/AMD drivers suck quite a lot. I'm not sure what happens with Nvidia-driver equipped laptops but I admit, Nvidia is a POS too when it comes to the most recent Nvidia laptops. But, there's already those in the community bashing Nvidia. It seems that ATI/AMD has a ton of apologists defending them all the time while everyone jumps on the bash-Nvidia bandwagon. They both suck when it comes to Linux because support is abysmal for either one.

[xgt001]

I think the OP is clueless and so are these other ATI/AMD fanatics. I checked out a Thinkpad T500 laptop and the suspend doesn't work. I can't help think graphics drivers has something to do with it. If one booted up Windows 7 with the same hardware and tried suspend (place the lid down and then lift it up), it would probably wake up properly. I guess people here who own ATI hardware just don't do anything with their computer. Maybe they just stare at it all day or play the odd game that doesn't require much or something.

ATI/AMD drivers suck quite a lot. I'm not sure what happens with Nvidia-driver equipped laptops but I admit, Nvidia is a POS too when it comes to the most recent Nvidia laptops. But, there's already those in the community bashing Nvidia. It seems that ATI/AMD has a ton of apologists defending them all the time while everyone jumps on the bash-Nvidia bandwagon. They both suck when it comes to Linux because support is abysmal for either one.

I am tired of listening to all this suspend-doesnt-work-so-amd-sucks! remarks. Could you please elaborate ?

Doesnt work in what sense? Machine does not resume at all? Or just the screen is blank on resume? In the latter case you just needed to increase the brightness a bit to get it working. Annoying workaround : YES. But a bug report with proper description would help more dont you feel?