Digia Buys Out Qt From Nokia

[Luke_Wolf]

First they get weak and then they die because there are only 2 valid statuses in a capitalism market "grow or die" get weak is just another word for pass away/out of business.
And I hope you are a share holder of RIM because the rule "grow or die" makes sure you lose a lot of money on your share value.

Okay you have just shown you have 0 comprehension of Capitalism right there. You've gotten yourself caught up into stupid corporatism which is an economic strategy for failure.

Capitalism itself has inherently NOTHING to do with money, it is simply Federalism as applied to the economy. Now to properly understand Capitalism, you have to understand that there are 3 levels of Labour

1. Labour of Love - an individual is working on something because it's something they really want to do, this is the highest and best form of labour because it means that not only is the work done faster/better, but when a person sees something that needs to be fix or something that's a good idea they'll take the initative and do it.

2. Labour of Greed - an individual is working for the money, they'll do what they're supposed to in order to get the money, but they're really not going to go out of their way to improve the product unless there is some incentive for them to do so.

3. Labour of Slavery - an individual is forced to work typically by the government, but in situations where slavery exists can be a result of that. This form of labour results in utterly terrible work, because the individual doesn't want to do the work and so obviously their work is going to be slipshod.

Now Capitalism and Communalism (note not communism) are the Peer to Peer and Server Client attempts to get to the highest form of labour respectively. Communism has the fatal flaw in that it tries to force the commune on everyone thereby not understanding communalism and simply resulting in the lowest form of labour. Socialism aka Corporatism aka Keynsianism shoots for #2 but when #3 is available it goes for that because the consolidation of power that results means the corruption of those positions of power.

Capitalism works when the federal government keeps it's nose out of it, This is very important because federalism and capitalism are predicated upon the goverment basically being a microkernel at the top, with the regional and lower governments being restricted to their own address space and not touching that of others. So California for instance can go off and be completely socialistic while not negatively effecting say Nevada for instance, in many cases California being socialist will hurt itself with having a positive effect on the less restrictive governments because businesses are incentivised to work there instead of in California. Capitalism and Federalism both break the moment someone succeeds in saying "I think our federal government should be doing X as well", and the moment they succeed it stops being federalism and capitalism and the robustness of the system is lost.

Now Communalism relies completely on barrier to entry, being the server client version it has to set up a situation where only people who want to be there are, in the case of the FOSS ecosystem it's releasing your code under an open source license and it's for the best if it's GPL because that further raises the barrier to entry. Now obviously since you're creating a barrier to entry you're creating the scaling issues inherent in the server client model and if the server breaks down or the barrier to entry weakens such that the average person can just leech off of the commune the system becomes broken. It should be pretty obvious therefore as to why Communism fails.

It is important to note here that both Capitalism and Communalism are Meritocracies.

Socialism, Corporatism, Keynsianism is simply a tool for consolidating power structures and thus breaking governments and economies. Now the average footpad, doesn't actually understand this, they've simply been convinced by people seeking greater power that it's the job of the government to do x,y, & z rather than understanding that the government itself is a power structure and should therefore be limited. In a federalist context the system can survive these games so long as the federal government itself doesn't become a successful target. Think of it like a cancer, how cancer kills you is not it's effect in the localized area but when it grows large enough to start effecting and screwing over the rest of the system. In a federalist/capitalist society because of the compartmentalization these systems can be let to receive their natural deaths and reform anew.

So no, Capitalism is not about grow or die. It's about maintain the highest form of labour or have your product suffer and fall under because of it. Also one thing you really need to note about software that does not apply to anything else is that it's nigh impossible to kill, particularly when it comes to FOSS software but it doesn't have to be. The Wing Commander Saga: Darkest Dawn, Haiku, and AROS are perfect examples of software living on after it's original "Death".

In any case you're just one of a number of trolls including FunkSTAR that have arisen from some ring of hell for some reason recently, but I hope that this economic/government lesson helps you to pull your head out of your ass.

[necro-lover]

Okay you have just shown you have 0 comprehension of Capitalism right there. You've gotten yourself caught up into stupid corporatism which is an economic strategy for failure.

I learned after a long research that its the complete opposite of fact compared to your dream-gooders nativity world.
A modern version of is the German social-market system and it always work in the same way the poor get a little piece from the cake and the rich get 98% of the cake. And they call "harz4" a decent living that's the 2% of the cake.
The original founders of this corporatism system are the Fascist Nazis in Italy and Germany 1933-1945 and there economy was the on with the highest performance worldwide and record of all times. That is a fact without that system the world war 2 would had ended years before 1945. And you call the system with the highest performance of all time in the human history a "economic strategy for failure" well that's your opinion.
Any big successful company like Intel/amd/nvidia/microsoft work inside of the corporatism logic example: Microsoft give away the IE for free but only because they earn the money to build the IE by force the people to pay for the IE in the way they buy Windows and they only buy windows because of the monopole market force. Another corporatism example: Intel support open-source drivers but only inside of the market-share rate of Linux/open-source this result in a cross-substitution rate of 95% of the windows drivers same for amd and nvidia. and that's the basic rule of corporatism the strong/rich get 95% and more of the cake and the weak/poor get 5% and less of the cake.

In fact corporatism always beat real capitalism at all time and in all cases.

Real capitalism would be if you buy a Linux/open-source product and all of your support money goes into open-source/Linux but ALL successful company spend your open-source support money with a rate of 95% and more into a closed-source-windows driver.

And in the end corporatism win by cheating but who cares ? they win anyway.

Capitalism itself has inherently NOTHING to do with money, it is simply Federalism as applied to the economy. Now to properly understand Capitalism, you have to understand that there are 3 levels of Labour

History show us that Corporatism win over Capitalism because in capitalism the poor and workers fight against the rich and creatives and this fight causes a lethal damage to the economy and Corporatism win because they solve this problem by trick the poor and the workers by buy them with a little cake and the rich and the creatives win the big cake.
In fact in the last 100 years Corporatism always won over Capitalism.

LOL and now you mix stuff up and you are complete wrong about corporatism.

1. Labour of Love - an individual is working on something because it's something they really want to do, this is the highest and best form of labour because it means that not only is the work done faster/better, but when a person sees something that needs to be fix or something that's a good idea they'll take the initative and do it.

2. Labour of Greed - an individual is working for the money, they'll do what they're supposed to in order to get the money, but they're really not going to go out of their way to improve the product unless there is some incentive for them to do so.

3. Labour of Slavery - an individual is forced to work typically by the government, but in situations where slavery exists can be a result of that. This form of labour results in utterly terrible work, because the individual doesn't want to do the work and so obviously their work is going to be slipshod.

Now Capitalism and Communalism (note not communism) are the Peer to Peer and Server Client attempts to get to the highest form of labour respectively. Communism has the fatal flaw in that it tries to force the commune on everyone thereby not understanding communalism and simply resulting in the lowest form of labour. Socialism aka Corporatism aka Keynsianism shoots for #2 but when #3 is available it goes for that because the consolidation of power that results means the corruption of those positions of power.

WOW how can someone be that wrong???
I read multiple articles about corporatism and be sure you are just wrong here.
Socialism is not another word for Corporatism. you just talk complete bullshit: " Socialism aka Corporatism"
just some wikipedia link to make sure you get the different:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatism
Thats just stunning that you mix this both into 1 bottle and claim its the same.

Socialism-market is a idea of the poor and workers they think that the rich and creatives work for the same money than the poor work for and if not they force them by violence.
Socialism is a idea of the rich and creatives they think they can trick the poor and workers by a little bribe most of the time 2% of the cake to do the work so they get 98% of the cake.

Capitalism works when the federal government keeps it's nose out of it,

You are really naive because the poor always lose in the Capitalism against the rich and this ends in a monopole and dependency.
And with the private money printing power of the FED/EZB the poor always get useless toiled paper for there work and the rich always own the land and all REAL stuff. And the poor are always owe slaves paying there interest and if not they go to jail.
In Corporatism the poor get 2% more than the poor get in capitalism because in capitalism they get nothing in the end. and the 2% are the bribe to soothe the poor.

I end here to react on your writing because it makes no sense you live in a dream world of gooders ..........

Outside of your dream world Corporatism always win over Capitalism in the market. And Capitalism always end in a fight between the rich and the poor.

[GreatEmerald]

I'm wondering who the bigger retard is: Totally obvious troll necro-lover or the people actually responding to him?

Indeed. The guy is using pretty much every single trick in the trolling book, and people keep feeding him.

[Awesomeness]

Indeed. The guy is using pretty much every single trick in the trolling book, and people keep feeding him.

Well, tricks would be hard to spot. ;-)

But maybe I'm unfair. Maybe the feeders are bored themselves and do it to kill time.

[Luke_Wolf]

But maybe I'm unfair. Maybe the feeders are bored themselves and do it to kill time.

Well This ^ and we're not necessarily replying for them, but for everyone else, in order to make sure that the FUD itself is soundly dismembered for the people not out to troll, who might get taken in by their nonsense.

[Luke_Wolf]

WOW how can someone be that wrong???
I read multiple articles about corporatism and be sure you are just wrong here.
Socialism is not another word for Corporatism. you just talk complete bullshit: " Socialism aka Corporatism"

The original founders of this corporatism system are the Fascist Nazis in Italy and Germany 1933-1945 and there economy was the on with the highest performance worldwide and record of all times. That is a fact without that system the world war 2 would had ended years before 1945. And you call the system with the highest performance of all time in the human history a "economic strategy for failure" well that's your opinion.

Nazi - National Socialist Workers Party

You know... Just saying

[Awesomeness]

Nazi - National Socialist Workers Party

You know... Just saying

The fun trolling turned into complete retardness with this comment.

[necro-lover]

The fun trolling turned into complete retardness with this comment.

Damn right its just stupid to read a party name and then think the party name is the definition of a economic system.

Nazi - National Socialist Workers Party
You know... Just saying

Your just saying is more than stupid because Socialists are a left-wing worldwide movement and National-Socialist is a right wing national movement in simple words its the complete opposite a left-wing socialist would kill a national socialist in no time and the other way around to. Also the word just trick you because the National-Socialists in Germany did not use a kind of Socialism as a economic system. They used a Capitalism+Corporatism system for there economic system. And all left-wing (Communism) socialists had a complete different socialistic economy without Corporatism and without basic rules of Capitalism.

Just for help you out National Socialism: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism

And this one http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism

Its the complete opposite and they also had complete different economic systems.

[Luke_Wolf]

Damn right its just stupid to read a party name and then think the party name is the definition of a economic system.

Because National Socialists Clearly aren't Socialists, uhuh.. I suggest you read about what the Nazis actually historically did with their government when they gained power.

Your just saying is more than stupid because Socialists are a left-wing worldwide movement and National-Socialist is a right wing national movement in simple words its the complete opposite a left-wing socialist would kill a national socialist in no time and the other way around to. Also the word just trick you because the National-Socialists in Germany did not use a kind of Socialism as a economic system. They used a Capitalism+Corporatism system for there economic system. And all left-wing (Communism) socialists had a complete different socialistic economy without Corporatism and without basic rules of Capitalism.

No ... No... and Hell no, The only reason that the Nazis are considered "right wing" is because of a comment by Stalin declaring everything less socialist of his stance to be "right wing". By Governmental and Economic Policy, the fact is is that the Nazis were a hardcore "left-wing" group. Stalin's Comment is only true if and only if you're that far over into that side of things. Corporatism which is the economic theory termed Keynsianism is the economic system of Socialism. Communism is a bit different of a structure from Socialism because it moves into being a commune that's shoved on everyone, and thus fail because that's not how communes work.

Its the complete opposite and they also had complete different economic systems.

Not really no, Communism is different from socialist economic systems yes, but between socialist groups not really no. The National and International Socialists are after the same goals in that regard.

[necro-lover]

Because National Socialists Clearly aren't Socialists, uhuh.. I suggest you read about what the Nazis actually historically did with their government when they gained power.

You really fail because you did a big mistake and I can explain what you did wrong:
You are naive you think something is what they claim they are but they just lie and trick you with a stupid self naming trick.
Example a ultra right-wing anti social just call him self left-social-worker and just in that moment you believe it instantly.
I call this stupid! people are not what they "claim" people are what they are really are and not what they claim in there propaganda.

In fact Nazis are not "Left" and they do not fight for the "Poor" and they are not "Socialists" in any way they are ultra-right wring people with strong anti-social core and they only trick the poor to use them to do the dirty "work" and in the end only the "rich" get a profit and the poor get the bombs on there heat.

Historical fact!

But stupid people like you read the party name and read "social" and think they are "left-wring" LOL thats more than stupid.

BRD germany right now are also "Social" and they are also not Left-wing because they support the rich up to 100% and the poor only get some breadcrumb on the floor. But stupid people like you read "Social-Economy" and claim BRD is left-wring lol.

No its not left-wring its corporatism the same system how the Nazis drive there economy.

No ... No... and Hell no, The only reason that the Nazis are considered "right wing" is because of a comment by Stalin declaring everything less socialist of his stance to be "right wing". By Governmental and Economic Policy, the fact is is that the Nazis were a hardcore "left-wing" group. Stalin's Comment is only true if and only if you're that far over into that side of things. Corporatism which is the economic theory termed Keynsianism is the economic system of Socialism. Communism is a bit different of a structure from Socialism because it moves into being a commune that's shoved on everyone, and thus fail because that's not how communes work.

You are really brainwashed the Nazis did not kill the rich! The Left-wring socialist killed the rich.
They are right-wing because the rich get the profit and they forced the poor to work for the rich.
Historically it was a big deal for the rich they earned a lot of profit because of the stuff the nazis did.
Because of this the right-wing-national-socialists(the name is a propaganda trick they are not social at all) fight against the left-wing-anti-rich-socialists and the left-socialists won the war because of a big international alliance (not because of the better economic system)

"Stalin's Comment is only true if and only if you're that far over into that side of things. "

that's really a cheap trick and I don't care the enemy of your "Propaganda" is always the "EVIL" in this case a left-ultra-socialist
LOL you are a joke!

Just for the record I'm a Anarchist who prefers a free market driven by the people not by the "rich/powerfull" this means bitcoin as a currency or Freecoin in the meaning of Silvio Gesell.

"Corporatism which is the economic theory termed Keynsianism is the economic system of Socialism."

You fail so hard. Corporatism is a taste of Capitalism driven by the "rich/powerfull" without the need of violence because the poor are to stupid to get the "Trick" compared to this Socialism is a fake capitalism driven by the "poor" forced by violence because the rich always get the "Trick".

But hey I read the wikipedia artikel about Keynsianism right now maybe i found something what is not complete out of sense.

Not really no, Communism is different from socialist economic systems yes, but between socialist groups not really no. The National and International Socialists are after the same goals in that regard.

you still don't get the propaganda trick that nazis are not "social" ?
Its a big worldwide agreement of ALL Socialists that the Nazis are NOT "Social" at all.
Really no one is that stupid to believe the propaganda shit of the Nazis in being "Social"

but hey you will still claim this because they named them-self "social" (Hopeless to exclaim this to you)