NVIDIA 304.37 Linux Driver Brings 41 Official Changes

[Naib]

No hard feelings, eh? If I've offended you, sorry. Wasn't my intention.

I'm finding it increasingly difficult to have a normal discussion over here, it inevitably turns into fanboy flaming very soon. That's why I don't post much anymore, and only come for (very rare) interesting news from developers.

it turns into a fanboy flamefest when you go full retard demanding stuff at people who are NOT nvidia. The thread was about the nvidia drivers NOT about "fuck nvidia" or "nvidia needs to open their drivers"

[pingufunkybeat]

it turns into a fanboy flamefest when you go full retard demanding stuff at people who are NOT nvidia.

What did I demand from people who are not Nvidia?

Do you think obvious lying on the internet will make me look stupid, or make you stupid?

The thread was about the nvidia drivers NOT about "fuck nvidia" or "nvidia needs to open their drivers"

The thread was (in part) about nvidia drivers blacklisting nouveau. That's when I bemoaned nvidia's treatment of nouveau. The off-topic stuff was brought about by other people.

[ninez]

No hard feelings, eh? If I've offended you, sorry. Wasn't my intention.

No hard feelings at all You haven't offended me either, i was just trying to get to the bottom of where you were coming from, and later just trying to set the record straight on a few things ~ hopefully, likewise you haven't taken anything i have said too personally ~ as my intention was not to attack you personally.

I'm finding it increasingly difficult to have a normal discussion over here, it inevitably turns into fanboy flaming very soon. That's why I don't post much anymore, and only come for (very rare) interesting news from developers.

Well, you have to remember this is an nvidia thread, many of the people reading/posting are in fact, nvidia (blob) users. Your comments (whether tongue-in-cheek, joking or othwise) were attracting some negative attention and weren't all that useful - especially when clearly, you don't like Nvidia and obviously prefer Intel. And like i said, i do believe intel is doing a good job and providing a decent linux experience and they should be applauded for those efforts, likewise AMD releasing specs and contributing in important ways should also be appreciated.
But Nvidia (although using a different development model) also does a good job at providing good drivers, they may not be perfect ~ no driver is and frankly 'perfection' is something to strive towards, not necessarily something attainable.

anyway, again no hard-feelings

cheerz

[Naib]

What did I demand from people who are not Nvidia?

Do you think obvious lying on the internet will make me look stupid, or make you stupid?

The thread was (in part) about nvidia drivers blacklisting nouveau. That's when I bemoaned nvidia's treatment of nouveau. The off-topic stuff was brought about by other people.

an opinion isn't lying and I said AT not FROM ie you are just ranting at us

If it was directed to people from nvidia then some form of debate on release philosophy could exist) but just relentlessly pushing ur own dogma on people who are happy with the blob without any give in appreciating where those who tolerate the blob come from is just rude.
Debates are two way, free flowing of opinions and ideas to come to a common middle ground, if you are going in without an openmind then it isn't a debate it is a soapbox and a rant

[RealNC]

Release the documentation.

No.

You don't like it? Who cares. Deal with it! It's *your* problem, not ours.

[pingufunkybeat]

If it was directed to people from nvidia then some form of debate on release philosophy could exist) but just relentlessly pushing ur own dogma on people who are happy with the blob without any give in appreciating where those who tolerate the blob come from is just rude.

Where have I ever done this?

I have always made it clear that I have no problem if you like the blob for the advantages it brings, just that I want the docs to be released, so people who are not happy with the blob could have an option. Every time anyone asks for docs, they are told to use the blob and shut up. Case in point:

No.

You don't like it? Who cares. Deal with it! It's *your* problem, not ours.

How am I pushing dogma on you? It's clear that RealNC is pushing his dogma on me, not the other way around.

[crazycheese]

people who are happy with the blob

This is self-contradicting. Its more like "people who tolerate the blob, because it does the job".

[RealNC]

This is self-contradicting. Its more like "people who tolerate the blob, because it does the job".

I'm happy with the blob. And I know others who are too.

And if the blob doesn't behave sometimes, we expect a better blob in the next version. I don't see why it would have to be open. I used open drivers before (AMD); the bugs are just as annoying as the ones in the blobs.