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    Phoronix: Canonical Comments On The Unity 2D Defenestration

    Jason Warner, the Ubuntu Desktop Manager at Canonical, acknowledges that dropping Unity 2D and going with Unity-Over-LLVMpipe may lead to some regressions and that some users will want to stick to Ubuntu 12.04 LTS or switch to another desktop environment...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTE2Mjc

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    The answer is to wait for Mint 14, which should be out shortly after Ubuntu 12.10. Especially with the Cinnamon UI.

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    I find it impressive that he recommends alternative desktops, admitting that unity is not a fit-them-all solution.

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    Hoping for LLVMpipe to pick up the slack / iron out the issues is wishful thinking. Unity 3D will simply not be usable without hardware acceleration on the low end of the spectrum. On Ivy Bridge / Haswell and later, it'll work fine, but on systems that don't support GL2 because the hardware doesn't, you aren't going to get good performance, period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allquixotic View Post
    Hoping for LLVMpipe to pick up the slack / iron out the issues is wishful thinking. Unity 3D will simply not be usable without hardware acceleration on the low end of the spectrum. On Ivy Bridge / Haswell and later, it'll work fine, but on systems that don't support GL2 because the hardware doesn't, you aren't going to get good performance, period.
    Well Ubuntu did choose to fight the problem at the right leve. Bad rendering is a matter of fixing drivers and getting the right hardware. reinventing UIs is not the solution. Who want QML anyway these days? It is less of focus for the ever-changing Qt-owner. No need to hype QML, Qt has its own marketing division, they can do the talking. Qt on windows/IOS/anything non-linux is the hot stuff right now. Canonical knows and they are backing.

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    When Ubuntu adopts Wayland, are they finally going to get rid of Compiz?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dukenukemx View Post
    The answer is to wait for Mint 14, which should be out shortly after Ubuntu 12.10. Especially with the Cinnamon UI.
    cinnamon being a fork of gnome shell isnt going to use LLVMPIPE ?

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    meh 64bit !

    its going to be probably superseeded by x32 anyway.

    also it doesnt seem to be that popular at least on ubuntu.

    I think canonical will go directly from recommending 32 to x32. Which is suppose to have all the advantages of both 64 and 32.

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    Quote Originally Posted by madjr View Post
    its going to be probably superseeded by x32 anyway. [...] I think canonical will go directly from recommending 32 to x32. Which is suppose to have all the advantages of both 64 and 32.
    No it isn't and no it doesn't. Here's a good read about the subject.

    Quote Originally Posted by madjr View Post
    also it doesnt seem to be that popular at least on ubuntu.
    Those stats are completely flawed. It doesn't differentiate between releases so it doesn't tell you have many of 12.04 users are using x86_64 for example but rather what all people who have ever had popcon enable have ever used. Now the fact that kdedesktop package has 20% usage for the last 30 days should tell everything you need to know about popcon: the package was removed after Ubuntu 8.04 release.

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    I've seen his blog before, but no one can come up with conclusions till like a year from now where people can test the memory usage for themselves, maybe even get some phoronix benchmarks.

    for now am using 32bit on my 3gb ram laptop and hope to test x32 in the future.

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