Wayland 1.0 Coming "In A Month Or Two"

[russofris]

@ asdx. if you relax for a minute you'll see that I was not spreading FUD against linux. i was pointing out the embarrassing detail that at these presentations many of the people run the demo in a vm on mac. like the brtfs video. if you want to promote a product you don't run it in a vm on your "enemy's" OS.

That "Apple has released a nice product which is used by a large number of people in the linux community" is not embarrassing for linux developers. Having a linux supporter feel the need to publicly "pooh-pooh" a linux developer for using a Macbook to give a presentation... That's embarrassing.

It's not about beating Apple/MSFT. It's about delivering something special to the world. We've got phones, network equipment, telecom equipment, stock markets, automated factories, scientific establishments, and a tremendous number of enterprises and productivity users. The world runs linux, and they don't even know it.

SENT FROM MY IPHONE

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[uid313]

So how does Wayland compare to rio (Plan 9 from Bell Labs), Quartz (OS X), Aero/DWM (Windows) ?

[Pallidus]

usually in a mac vm. to rub the salt in the wound that the linux desktop is 20 years of fail.

There are no BLACK mac laptops you fokin troll


btw what's with all the hate towards phoronix, let the guy autopromote himself all he wants... those mac retinas aren't gonna pay for themselves you know

[Ofen]

There are no BLACK mac laptops you fokin troll

You are wrong

[asdx]

@ asdx. if you relax for a minute you'll see that I was not spreading FUD against linux. i was pointing out the embarrassing detail that at these presentations many of the people run the demo in a vm on mac. like the brtfs video. if you want to promote a product you don't run it in a vm on your "enemy's" OS.

There's no sign that Mac is running in that presentation. All I see is Weston in that picture.

Troll harder next time.

[daniels]

It's a Lenovo thinkpad running Weston with the DRM backend, on native Linux.

I'm sending this from a MacBook Air running Debian, again native and not under OS X at all. It runs either X11 or the Weston DRM backend.

Christ.

[89c51]

It's a Lenovo thinkpad running Weston with the DRM backend, on native Linux.

I'm sending this from a MacBook Air running Debian, again native and not under OS X at all. It runs either X11 or the Weston DRM backend.

Christ.

Writing Linux related code/apps on Mac OS X decreases the quality of code by 68.7%. Fact. And i have numbers to prove it.


On a serious note is there anything in wayland that prevents the porting of full DEs on it??

[russofris]

On a serious note is there anything in wayland that prevents the porting of full DEs on it??

I do not believe so. Most DE's have their own compositor, so they will either need to port the DE to use Weston, or port their X11 compositor to Wayland.

The DE wars appear to have taken such a toll on the FOSS ecosystem that I honestly cannot anticipate what will come of all of this.

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[BO$$]

Hell's gates will open in about 2 months I guess...Knowing Canonical we can expect Ubuntu 13.04 jump on wayland and make it mandatory and probably since 12.10 is coming in about 2 months we can expect even 12.10 to run wayland with about 2 hours of testing from the team.... A sad day indeed it will be, oh God of Wayland have mercy on us, the ones that don't want to reboot after an upgrade and stare into the black abyss of the terminal screen because of incompatible drivers and bugs!

[nerdopolis]

Writing Linux related code/apps on Mac OS X decreases the quality of code by 68.7%. Fact. And i have numbers to prove it.


On a serious note is there anything in wayland that prevents the porting of full DEs on it??

Some GTK 3 apps run natively, (some segfault because they have some x11 stuff coded in the app)

I was also able to get the KDELIBS frameworks samples to work on qt5 with the native Wayland backend (on the livecd) but I'm sure once I figure out how, I could complie kde-baseapps

...I think the biggest issue right now is I don't think all window managment features exist in Wayland/weston right now...

EDIT: well the universal wlshm "driver" for the nested xwayland server could use some work, it's why xwayland apps appear glitchy