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    Default Ten Suggestions For The GNOME Camp

    Phoronix: Ten Suggestions For The GNOME Camp

    Stemming from last year's GNOME User Survey that was hosted on Phoronix since the GNOME Foundation wasn't interested, the results continue to be analyzed...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTE4MDc

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    11) If you are one of the idiots responsible for UI/UX castrate yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 89c51 View Post
    11) If you are one of the idiots responsible for UI/UX castrate yourself.
    huh didn't see that coming. They (the gnome designers) are as clueless as a server vendor about what users want from a desktop.

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    While I appreciated the efforts in the 2011 Gnome Survey, I thought some of the questions were quite vague. I'd propose for the 2012 Survey to drill down with specificity as to what features the users like/dislike as well as what features the users believe are missing.

    Also a rating system with 0 - completely dissatisfied and 5 - completely satisfied would be better for consistency. I'd also like to see the Survey broken down into sections (ie. Look & Feel, GUI options, File Handling, Core Applications, etc). I believe each question should be specific, and the user answer should be (0-5) that way, the answers could be processed by a script and we could get some meaningful statistics out of the survey. There could be a comment box at the end of each "section" for the users to leave comments.

    Where is the discussion about the 2012 Gnome User survey taking place?

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    I've choose to stay out of this silly debates surrounding Gnome 3 till now. But I do feel things have gone a little too far.
    I've lost count of the articles published by Michael on the topic, but I do know they are too many.

    For me personally Gnome 2 was a disaster, visually bloated (why in the hell would you want 2 panels on the screen???!!!) and counter-intuitive. It used too much screen space when browsing menus, you had to pass too many sub-menus to reach your app, it had bad search functionality, it had an useless applets system...so that is why I always preferred KDE4 to Gnome 2. But I recently gave up on KDE 4...after 5 years of development Plasma still crashes on me. On Kde 4.9 the networkmanager is completely broken as to not allow to connect to DSL and wireless.

    So about 3 months ago I gave Gnome 3 a try, and I was impressed by how well it works. No bugs, fast and pretty. And with the extensions system you finally have decent expansion possibilities. I do miss Kwin effects but not so much as to give up on Gnome.

    I do understand the conservative faction of the Linux community...but I do not understand idiocy and stubbornness.
    Get over it already and give Gnome 3 try!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrinnho View Post
    I've choose to stay out of this silly debates surrounding Gnome 3 till now. But I do feel things have gone a little too far.
    I've lost count of the articles published by Michael on the topic, but I do know they are too many.

    For me personally Gnome 2 was a disaster, visually bloated (why in the hell would you want 2 panels on the screen???!!!) and counter-intuitive. It used too much screen space when browsing menus, you had to pass too many sub-menus to reach your app, it had bad search functionality, it had an useless applets system...so that is why I always preferred KDE4 to Gnome 2. But I recently gave up on KDE 4...after 5 years of development Plasma still crashes on me. On Kde 4.9 the networkmanager is completely broken as to not allow to connect to DSL and wireless.

    So about 3 months ago I gave Gnome 3 a try, and I was impressed by how well it works. No bugs, fast and pretty. And with the extensions system you finally have decent expansion possibilities. I do miss Kwin effects but not so much as to give up on Gnome.

    I do understand the conservative faction of the Linux community...but I do not understand idiocy and stubbornness.
    Get over it already and give Gnome 3 try!
    I agree with most of what you are saying. In my opinion, Gnome 3 uses desktop space much more effectively than the older GNOME 2 (I too could never figure out why you would want two horizontal panels on a widescreen monitor). Gnome 3 just fits widescreen monitors better. I have more vertical space because of it. It took some time to get used to the new GUI paradigm; however, after using Gnome 3 for several releases, I feel I'm actually more productive on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrinnho View Post
    I do understand the conservative faction of the Linux community...but I do not understand idiocy and stubbornness.
    Get over it already and give Gnome 3 try!
    I also agree with you that most negative responses tend to be fruit of stubbornness, and I also prefer Gnome 3 to 2, but the other day I read what they are doing to Nautilus and my mind changed completely. Have you read this? It's basically saying that you won't be able to start typing in nautilus to jump to the first file/folder with those characters. You also won't be able to use the F3 shortcut to create a new pane. The devs solution? Just open a new nautilus window and position it to the side of the first one.... yeah, much better/faster then just pressing F3. What is this? Mac? They seem really keen on emulating the crappy and mostly useless Finder What a disappointment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrinnho View Post
    (why in the hell would you want 2 panels on the screen???!!!)
    That is NOT for them (or you) to decide. Gnome-2 did NOT make you have 2 panels. If you only wanted one, you were free to only create ONE. If you want NINE, you were free to do that too. I *personally* want two panels to separate FUNCTION. Top panel for static launchers, menus, applets, etc., bottom panel for dynamic content like open window lists. You can't put those two into one panel because there wouldn't be enough space on one panel. You can't reasonably use two rows in a single panel because then you have to waste time/effort on unnecessary precision in order to select the proper row.


    I use gnome-shell, customized to hell and back. It looks just like a two-row configuration of gnome-panel (gnome-2). It is efficient. I don't want to go into freaking retard mode blowing that worthless ugly interface over everything when all I want to do is bring another window to the front. I want that window listed right there and be easily accessed.

    Gnome is going to hell, determined to drive themselves entirely into irrelevance. I could care less about it being "pretty", I need it to be FUNCTIONAL. They focus on worthless glitter. I WANT UGLY AND PRACTICAL!!!!!!

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