You are right...we are linux users and we just love to use the mouse, and really hate keyboard. That's why a majority created Arch and Gento, for the sole purpose of using the MOUSE. Keyboard is bad and scary and makes Linux so difficult to use.
Originally Posted by 89c51
We're in total agreeance!
Originally Posted by TobiSGD
Well, almost ...
Originally Posted by TobiSGD
(As an aside though, no, I don't have any useful objective way to measure productivity. It depends on the time of day, the weather, how tired/stressed I'm feeling, what I'm working on - am I measuring lines of code, word count on a proposal, number of papers on vertex culling read? - who I'm working with, etc, etc. I don't have a good independent way to measure that, just gut feeling, and a deep feeling of frustration when I had to drop back to fallback mode a while ago due to various breakage.)
Has anyone found the TOP1 suggestion is weird? IMO Gnome-shell has the best customization support while seeing so many extensions.
The TOP1 should be "Release the extension ASAP" and half of other suggestions could be deleted.
As someone who has been using Xfce as my primary desktop as Gnome Shell does not support Zaphod Mode, I recently had the opportunity to try out Gnome 2 again on my brother's machine. I was putting CentOS on it, and while I liked the nostalgic appeal, I could not help but notice several jarring faults. The panel placement on Gnome 2 is damn stupid, with this jarring manual position locks and a lack of a proper applet editor like Xfce and LXDE has. Even then things still kept moving about upon restarts.
There were also a lot of other bugs which I had forgotten about. Nautilus and it's desktop handling was a refreshing change, and I still miss a couple of Gnome 2's applets, but in many ways Xfce offers me what Gnome 2 did only better.
Now, Xfce has it's fair share of annoyances, most notably Thunar and xfdesktop. But it was interesting to note that after using Gnome 2 again I did not fall in love with it as much as some might have suspected. I wonder how many other people are looking back at it with rose tinted glasses as well.
Last edited by Hamish Wilson; 09-10-2012 at 10:06 PM.
The change from Gnome 1 to Gnome 2 was before I changed to Linux, so I had to look up some screenshots how it looked. It seems to me that it, like Gnome 2, used the classic desktop layout with a menu, a panel and desktop icons. So the change from Gnome 1 to Gnome 2 seems, at least to me, not as radical as the change from Gnome 2 to Gnome Shell, with its more tablet oriented interface.
Originally Posted by daniels
As I stated, in my opinion is the real problem with Gnome Shell that it changed its type of usage in a radical way. This is what really bothers people, they should just have said: "Hey look people, we have this new ideas that want we use to develop a new environment. Everyone that rather not wants to use the tablet interface but the old Gnome 2 style can do so if he finds some developers that take over Gnome, we will, because of the radical change, give our new desktop a new name". Instead they said: "We don't care what our users want, we just abandon Gnome 2, develop something completely new and name it Gnome 3, so that we have it placed in all major distros from the beginning, since it has this established name." Worked not really that way, with Ubuntu creating Unity and distros like Debian rather changing the default desktop to XFCE.
Just my point of view on that, this whole mess could have easily been avoided with a different name.
I love my Gnome-Shell Here's a Screenshot
There are some good suggestions here that are being actively worked on- I'm glad the input wasn't entirely 'bring back GNOME 2'. Of course, the main issue with taking this poll seriously is the Phoronix part- the kinds of users who read Phoronix passionately enough to vote in a poll about GNOME might not be quite the core audience. Not to say we're not important, but I think that our opinions differ quite a lot amongst ourselves, and comparing those numbers to the entire user base GNOME supports may give you a slightly different perspective (I'm guessing, at most, less than half of Linux users read Phoronix).
Again, not saying the results aren't valid, only that it's a small part of the picture. We would do better to poll where Linux users of all types (and biases) can vote. The only polls I've seen about GNOME 3 are the Phoronix and some OMG Ubuntu! polls, and I think it's needless to say that's not representative.
Well, I have no issues with this at work. But when I just browse on my laptop while I'm also doing other stuff (e.g. eating) and I want to use one hand or just a few fingers then typing becomes a pain.
Originally Posted by Adrinnho
For the exact same reason massive mouse movements are annoying when your on a touchpad.
But I guess - according to your "definition" - I'm using Linux in the wrong way. I also guess that your solution would be along the Apple lines: hold it differently, instead of acknowledging and fixing the issue. (And I haven't even though of people with disabilities who can't use a keyboard properly.)
But hey, it's not your problem, right? Then all is well!
sometimes i have a cup of tea in one hand and a mouse in the other. ctrl+alt+right is hard to do 1 handed.
Originally Posted by Adrinnho
On space usage gnome 2 panel is great, i have 2 and they are full of useful things. in gnome3 the panel takes up lots of precious pixels, and only gives me a clock. when i tried to get a system monitor in my panel i had a day of fail. i installed a gnome-shell extension through yum, which did nothing and had not documentation, eventually found i needed to type something in to the shell debug terminal to enable it. i gave my a next to useless, unconfigurable cpu graph that was only visible in the zoomed out mode. the shell extension website made my session crash, and my gnome non-login-to-able.
xfce feels like stepping back 10 years in terms of missing features. kde is good if you love control panels (can't i just remember where i like my external monitor).
MATE has kept me happy and productive.