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    Default Preparing For The Release of Wayland 1.0

    Phoronix: Preparing For The Release of Wayland 1.0

    Listen to Kristian Høgsberg talk about the imminent Wayland 1.0 release, multimedia integration for Wayland/Weston, and other recent Wayland developments...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTE4NTA

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    Ubuntu and Debian does not compile GTK+ with the Wayland backend enabled.

    Ubuntu does not yet have PAM set $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR.

    Weston does not support minimize on windows.

    Weston Terminal does trigger Enter when you press the right Enter button on the numpad.

    Xwayland is not yet merged into the radeonhd and nouveau drivers.

    Ubuntu's thin scrollbars causes application crashes and needs to be disabled (export LIBOVERLAY_SCROLLBAR=0).

    libcanberra-gtk3-module causes crashes and needs to be uninstalled.

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    Hope the proprietary nvidia driver will support wayland in the future.

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    wayland 1.0 + e17 official release = year of the linux desktop!!!!

    I suspect Windows market share will drop by at least 20% on the first week. And after KLANG releases, 100% linux market share!

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    And then canonical will release a new version of unity it will drop to 0%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uid313 View Post
    Ubuntu and Debian does not compile GTK+ with the Wayland backend enabled.

    Ubuntu does not yet have PAM set $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR.

    Ubuntu's thin scrollbars causes application crashes and needs to be disabled (export LIBOVERLAY_SCROLLBAR=0).
    Ubuntu is atleast a year way from showcasing Wayland officially. Debian's probably 4 or 5 years away. So the current lack of GTK+ support / PAM or a crash isnt really that big of a deal. Upstream / Ubuntu will fix as time allows.

    Quote Originally Posted by uid313 View Post
    Weston does not support minimize on windows.

    Weston Terminal does trigger Enter when you press the right Enter button on the numpad.
    Weston is only the reference implementation, it is not meant to be THE compositor on production systems so the fact that it currently cant do minimize isnt really that big of a deal. Kwin / Compiz / Mutter will be THE compositor, and THATS where minimize support and all the other stuff matters. Though, Weston supporting minimize should be done just for the sake of completeness.


    Quote Originally Posted by uid313 View Post
    Xwayland is not yet merged into the radeonhd and nouveau drivers.
    Technically Radeonhd is a dead project, if youre referring to the open source ATI drivers thats just "radeon." And I was under the impression that XWayland has to be merged into the Xorg server, not the respective drivers.

    Quote Originally Posted by uid313 View Post
    libcanberra-gtk3-module causes crashes and needs to be uninstalled.
    Upstream fix as time allows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ericg View Post
    Ubuntu is atleast a year way from showcasing Wayland officially. Debian's probably 4 or 5 years away. So the current lack of GTK+ support / PAM or a crash isnt really that big of a deal. Upstream / Ubuntu will fix as time allows.



    Weston is only the reference implementation, it is not meant to be THE compositor on production systems so the fact that it currently cant do minimize isnt really that big of a deal. Kwin / Compiz / Mutter will be THE compositor, and THATS where minimize support and all the other stuff matters. Though, Weston supporting minimize should be done just for the sake of completeness.




    Technically Radeonhd is a dead project, if youre referring to the open source ATI drivers thats just "radeon." And I was under the impression that XWayland has to be merged into the Xorg server, not the respective drivers.



    Upstream fix as time allows.
    The Xwayland server needs a ddx driver. The current solution is using a slightly modified X driver, or use the generic software rendering WLSHM driver for xwayland, which is quite underdeveloped

    The future is probably a hardware acclerated driver for xwayland like EGL instead of wlshm
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    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...desktops&num=6
    Unity 6.4 with Compiz meanwhile was the slowest in the majority of the benchmark results.
    Wayland will be probably same disaster as Unity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JS987 View Post
    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...desktops&num=6
    Wayland will be probably same disaster as Unity.
    Compiz used by Unity probably slows down OpenGL applications.
    Wayland is similar to Compiz.
    Last edited by JS987; 09-16-2012 at 02:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JS987 View Post
    Compiz used by Unity probably slows down OpenGL applications.
    Wayland is similar to Compiz.
    lol if anything then Weston is similar to Compiz (being a compositor as an example implementation of the Wayland Protocol). The fact that you can't even make this distinction leads me to belive, that you don't know much about the whole issue.

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