KDE On Wayland Won't Happen Anytime Soon

[phoronix]

Phoronix: KDE On Wayland Won't Happen Anytime Soon

Proper support for running the KDE desktop on Wayland still won't happen for a while...

http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTE4ODg

[d2kx]

It's ok, Wayland is not exactly going to replace everything tomorrow anyway. Martin kicking ass as usual.

[Awesomeness]

Unlike the geniuses at GNOME, Canonical and the Cinnamon project, KDE didn't make any of their software – not even Plasma Desktop – have a hard dependency on KWin. Early adopters could use Weston or whatever in the meantime.

[garegin]

i love the terms "a while" and long. they are essentially pulling a samba4 on us by being super vague on the timelines.

[jayrulez]

Unlike the geniuses at GNOME, Canonical and the Cinnamon project, KDE didn't make any of their software – not even Plasma Desktop – have a hard dependency on KWin. Early adopters could use Weston or whatever in the meantime.

I don't believe any GNOME, Canonical or Cinnamon project has any sort of dependency on KWin .

[Alliancemd]

Martin will kick ass when Wayland will get in distributions, I am sure of that...
Martin and Peter Penz are my favorite developers from the KDE team. Bad that Peter Penz left the Dolphin project
I remember once reporting a bug on Dolphin and Peter Penz resolved it and pushed it to the master branch for the next release of KDE in ~40 minutes. Was a pleasure to report bugs

[BO$$]

With a bit of luck this will serve as a wake up call that this wayland thing isn't really the rage it's cracked up to be by some people...

[Awesomeness]

I don't believe any GNOME, Canonical or Cinnamon project has any sort of dependency on KWin .

I see your smiley and I'm sure you understood but to clarify for others:
GNOME Shell is a plugin for Mutter. No other window manager can be used to run GNOME Shell.
Canonical’s Unity is a plugin for Compiz. No other window manager can be used to run Unity.
Cinnamon is a plugin for Muffin. No other window manager can be used to run Cinnamon.

OTOH:
KDE Plasma Workspaces make use of certain KWin features to look nicer (eg. blurred wallpaper behind the task bar) but KPW run just fine with any other WM. Just for fun I currently run Plasma Desktop with GNOME’s Mutter WM – no blur effect behind the task bar but perfectly usable anyway.

Once Qt 5 ships for Wayland and every KDE application (except KWin) compiles against Qt 5 it all should run with Weston.

[linux5850]

Can't X run as a service on Wayland? That way you can use Wayland for other things that support it and still use KDE on Wayland through it's X support. Does that mean that finally we can run X rootless?