NVidia isn't doing Linux a favour with their drivers if that's what you're getting at, they support Linux in order to tap into the HPC clusters and 3D/SFX markets, perhaps their focus will broaden a little if Steam manages to take off on Linux, but in the end they will support Linux as long as it makes them money, and not a minute more so you can stop with the 'oh we must play nice or they might leave' nonsense.
Why has Linux gotten where it has? Because it's open source at it's very core, everything that belongs to the kernel is open source, all drivers which want to interface with the kernel are open source.
The main thing that persuaded hardware vendors to provide open source driver/information in the first place was that it was a pain in the ass to maintain their own proprietary driver, so when the kernel developers said that -'open source it and we will maintain it against infrastructure changes, fix any bugs we find and even possibly improve it' then that made business sense for the vast majority of said vendors, if it was painless to maintain proprietary drivers then that would be all they'd offer.
This is what has led Linux to have AMAZING hardware support built in to the kernel which means it's supportable on all the platforms Linux supports. This is indeed a GREAT advantage, and every new piece of hardware that Linux can support natively makes it all the more useful and therefore attractive.
This is the core of what has made Linux such a success, it's open source from subsystems to drivers, portable to basically everything under the sun.
So why the f**k should the kernel devs suddenly diverge from this core principle and make it easier for hardware vendors to stay proprietary when what which follows with proprietary software: vendor/system lock-in, security issues through non-verifiable/debuggable code, is the exact OPPOSITE of what Linux stands for? To make it less work for NVidia to add their proprietary optimus support? Seriously???
Add to this the fact that NVidia is one of the last companies who cling to proprietary drivers when supporting Linux, a company which is quickly becoming a bit-player on the Linux user desktop. And in this day and age, when proprietary hardware drivers are close to becoming a f***ing bad memory on open platforms you'd have to have missed the whole point of open source as advocated by Linux if you still suggest that they 'should make it easier for proprietary drivers'.
Also was there anything new in this linked thread from when last brought up in a 'phoronix article'? Seems Michael is trying too hard into making this an issue which goes hand in hand his usual pro-proprietary-Nvidia propaganda.
I couldn't agree more with you, you seem to be one of the few people here with common sense and good knowledge about Linux.
I wish all the other trolls here would get a brain and stop being morons.
I wrote pretty much the same thing, and then you accused me of loving blobs, and said that you don't read my posts.
I get confused here, too many trolls.
I retract from the things I've said about you, sorry.
Also, I don't want Nvidia to go away, I simply want them to be a better Linux player, I want to feel proud of them (for their contributions), I want to see them contribute to Nouveau, Mesa, Wayland, etc, I realize they could be much better than what they are now.
Let's face it, Nvidia engineers are skilled, they have top-notch OpenGL, etc, but they could be much better by helping nouveau, Mesa, and being a good contributor to FOSS and Linux (what XorEaxEax said).
I would prefer that Nvidia would go away if they'll never change their position regarding Linux and their FOSS contributions though, since their position right now is too counterproductive and doesn't help anyone.
Again, sorry for calling you names pingufunkybeat, I simply got confused, but that's no excuse, I'll try not to make the same mistake again. I'm very sorry.
By default, Nvidia proprietary driver is NOT accelerated under Firefox due to instability with some cards.
A Pentium 4 era machine with IGP I posses, scrolls in Firefox just as fluid using intel opensource drivers, as proprietary nvidia driver. There are however problems when playing fullhd video, due to Firefox not having basic pixel acceleration support and blitting in software. Same HD video, for example, in any player that outputs to Xv, runs flawless on P4. And OpenGL up to 3.3 in software(up to 2.0 in hardware, full support)...
Originally Posted by GT220
Face it, you know what I said is true, you GPL Nazis are killing Linux.
“Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power”
You fail at failing.
Last edited by crazycheese; 10-18-2012 at 07:13 PM.
I'd imagine that would be the license text. If the Windows license states that anything linking to its code is considered a derivative work, then it is.
Well, license agreements can only govern whatever copyright applies to, as license agreements are terms of the contract between the copyright holder and the licensee. The question is whether the Nvidia blob would use DMA-BUF as an API or whether it would derive from it.