The First GNOME 3.8 Development Release

[phoronix]

Phoronix: The First GNOME 3.8 Development Release

The first development release of the GNOME 3.8 is now available with new features for the GNOME desktop...

http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTIxNTc

[Ericg]

The GNOME Settings Daemon is now dependent upon logind for session tracking as well as suspending and rebooting the system.

Only occurance of logind i could find was from systemd so does this mean Gnome 3.8 has an implied dependency on systemd? Or can you load logind without systemd?

[droidhacker]

Does anyone, even just one person, anywhere, on the whole planet, actually use epiphany?

[RahulSundaram]

Only occurance of logind i could find was from systemd so does this mean Gnome 3.8 has an implied dependency on systemd? Or can you load logind without systemd?

GNOME doesn't directly depend on logind but the D-Bus interface which is provided by logind but alternative implementations can be used instead. GNOME already uses several such interfaces.

http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Soft...StabilityChart

[uid313]

Drop or Fix Fallback Mode
https://live.gnome.org/ThreePointSev...ixFallbackMode

I hope they do not drop GNOME Fallback mode!
I am no fan of Unity or GNOME Shell, and really like the classic GNOME experience.

[0xCAFE]

Does anyone, even just one person, anywhere, on the whole planet, actually use epiphany?

Yes, I do, because it's so lightweight but still renders the web correctly thanks to the WebKit engine. And it integrates so nicely with the rest of the system.

[0xCAFE]

Drop or Fix Fallback Mode
https://live.gnome.org/ThreePointSev...ixFallbackMode

I hope they do not drop GNOME Fallback mode!

If someone steps up to maintain it. Oracle?

[droidhacker]

Since the release of 3.0, a technology called llvmpipe has allowed for fast software rendering, lowering the need for the fallback mode.

My eyes are BURNING!!!! PULL THEM OUT!!! PULL THEM OUT!!!!

And bullet point / link:
"the presence of fallback mode is having a negative impact on the quality of the primary GNOME 3 user experience"

Please list any negative ways in which fallback mode makes the primary GNOME 3 experience worse for users. Linking to bugs is fine.

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[Ericg]

GNOME doesn't directly depend on logind but the D-Bus interface which is provided by logind but alternative implementations can be used instead. GNOME already uses several such interfaces.

http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Soft...StabilityChart

Thanks for the clarification Rahul!

[jhansonxi]

My experience with gnome-fallback in dual-head/non-xinerama (zaphod) configurations is that it is nearly as useless as Unity or Gnome3. I switched to XFCE.