Gentoo Developers Unhappy, Fork udev

[phoronix]

Phoronix: Gentoo Developers Unhappy, Fork udev

The udev code-base has been forked by Gentoo Linux developers after they -- and other parties -- have been unhappy with the future direction of udev as set by systemd developers...

http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTIzMDU

[ryao]

As I said on slashdot.org:

I doubt anyone will listen to me at this point, but that was not an official announcement. I wrote that email to preempt a policy decision by the Gentoo Council that would have negatively affected the goals of our nascent project. A consequence of doing fully open source development is that with the exception of issues involving the security of our infrastructure, all of our internal emails are public.

Anyway, the official announcement will come later. We are still working on becoming organized. I also probably should register on slashdot.

[DeepDayze]

Udev should be its own project as it is considered critical infrastructure, and it shouldn't be depending on any init subsystem in particular (like systemd), but be initsystem-agnostic. Smart move on the part of the Gentoo developers to do this fork and hopefully this codebase can be made available to other distros as well (debian, red hat, ubuntu..etc)

Question is why should a critical component like udev be under the control of systemd developers anyway?

[ryao]

Udev should be its own project as it is considered critical infrastructure, and it shouldn't be depending on any init subsystem in particular (like systemd), but be initsystem-agnostic. Smart move on the part of the Gentoo developers to do this fork and hopefully this codebase can be made available to other distros as well (debian, red hat, ubuntu..etc)

Question is why should a critical component like udev be under the control of systemd developers anyway?

Ask greghk AT gentoo DOT org why he gave maintainership to Redhat employees in the first place. As far as I am concerned, it should have stayed within Gentoo.

[balouba]

This wanna make me switch back to gentoo.

[elanthis]

greghk AT gentoo DOT org

Clearly no spambot has been updated to parse that syntax yet. Good show, sir. Let's continue making life as hard as possible for humans while not even making a blip of inconvenience for the machines we're trying to thwart.

[BO$$]

I still find it funny that people choose to ignore what linux tells them. It's like they assume he's an idiot and go on do their thing. If torvalds says what you do is shit maybe you should at least consider him.

[ryao]

Clearly no spambot has been updated to parse that syntax yet. Good show, sir. Let's continue making life as hard as possible for humans while not even making a blip of inconvenience for the machines we're trying to thwart.

The inconvenience was intentional. It was meant as a subtle point that he is a Gentoo Developer, not an open invitation to harass him.

[nightmarex]

Udev is a critical linux component. Systemd is quickly becoming one as well. However I have no flipping idea why udev is merged under systemd's tree in the first place. What benefit to this action am I overlooking?

[airlied]

Ask greghk AT gentoo DOT org why he gave maintainership to Redhat employees in the first place. As far as I am concerned, it should have stayed within Gentoo.

I don't think Kay worked for RH back when Greg stopped co-maintaining udev.