Richard Stallman Calls Ubuntu "Spyware"

[Pallidus]

OMG even bsd users posting


WHAT FAIL IS THIS?????



this thread can get up to 20 pages long

the facts will still remain

-shuttleworth will monetize ubuntu, either you like it or not

-stallman will keep trolling

-phoronix cunts will write 30 pages about it.



Me, not being retarded, have enough inteligence to recognize that there needs to be corporate involvement and money being throw at linux development for it to start being more than a OS for phoronix cunts.


canonical can turn ubuntu into adware central OS with amazon in the wallpaper, AND I'M STILL GOING TO USE IT. They need to make a little money and I need a OS, quid pro quo.


you don't like it? follow that fail whale up there and download bsd

or better yet haiku os... I heard that one has no spyware or adware... I don't even think it has any -ware at all lol

stallman must love it

[Cthulhux]

There is no adware in BSD either.

[D0pamine]

cant someone just recompile without the spyware?

[pingufunkybeat]

cant someone just recompile without the spyware?

http://www.linuxmint.com/

[Cthulhux]

They already did. Take Xubuntu and add Unity without the shopping lens.

[Serafean]

OMG even bsd users posting

What is that supposed to mean?

-shuttleworth will monetize ubuntu, either you like it or not

-stallman will keep trolling

-phoronix cunts will write 30 pages about it.

Me, not being retarded, have enough inteligence to recognize that there needs to be corporate involvement and money being throw at linux development for it to start being more than a OS for phoronix cunts.


canonical can turn ubuntu into adware central OS with amazon in the wallpaper, AND I'M STILL GOING TO USE IT. They need to make a little money and I need a OS, quid pro quo.

sure, I'm not blaming him for trying to monetize. It's just that personnaly I'm terrified of this interconnectedness of everything, and I'm acting on it. (Using software I trust, heck I'm in the process of installing my personnal mail server!) As you said : quid pro quo. I set up and maintain my system, and get what I believe is right. You apparently are willing to sacrifice parts of what are my beliefs (not necessarily yours) for ease of use. your CHOICE (belief system).

To give you an insight into my views, I'll take the ever recurring example of Valve/GOG : I am not capable of subscribing to Valve. I simply can't, to me it would be like cheating on myself. Why? Because it's a controlled environment, it does stuff I can't control, but the worst (again a what if scenario) is the thought of Valve going underground. I will never accept that stuff I purchased will be taken from me in the future just because I didn't really purchase it but "leased" it. This may or may not happen, but it feels like a (less fatal) sword of Damocles, and I'm not willing to live with it. (Note the difference between something getting taken away, getting used (losing compatibility) out and breaking)
GOG doesn't screw with me, they just give me installers and I do whatever I want afterwards. Lesser choice of games, not on my platform of choice, but this is where my money is going.

All this to say that it all comes down to our personal values. I have mine, you have yours. I admit I do judge you based on them (who doesn't) but I take great offence for getting called retarded just because I don't think/behave same as you.

Stallman isn't trolling, he's stating facts, as he has been most of the time. Now just adding to the fuel of this thread : link. This really creeps me out...

Serafean

PS : this is a reply to Pallidus, but not only he should take a step back and think before posting. A community presents itself to the interweb through its forums, just keep that in mind...

[ElderSnake]

Is it just me or does Phoronix forums seem to harbour a lot of angry people?

Stallman has absolutely no right to degrade canonical or tell people what to do or what to think.

But he does have the right. It's called free speech. Richard Stallman himself, for example, disagrees heavily with anti-abortionists, but said he would always fight for their right to express their view and have their anti-abortion websites etc.

We may not always agree with that he says or how he says it, but he has a right to speak his mind.

[Awesomeness]

But, last time I checked, Firefox already includes a private browsing mode like that out of the box?

No, they work different. FF’s privacy mode will just not save cookies etc. but will still allow connections to trackers, eg. Google Analytics which means that Google will still get the IP address and fully track the user within that session.
Ghostery will block any connections to such trackers, similar to a custom hosts file but with 1-click opt in/out. There is also a 1-click method to inform the user about the tracker. Simply click on “What is Google Analytics” and land on http://www.ghostery.com/apps/google_analytics

It's a quite easy and transparent way to give users control.

That said, opening a web browser is still opt-in whereas Ubuntu’s Amazon search is on by default for offline searches. No other OS that I know does something like this.

[mdias]

That said, opening a web browser is still opt-in whereas Ubuntu’s Amazon search is on by default for offline searches. No other OS that I know does something like this.

Both installing Ubuntu and using the lens is not something that happens without the user noticing, so following your logic I guess that's also opt-in, no?

[Cthulhux]

When installing Ubuntu, inspired by all those "I AM 1337 B.COZ I CAN INSTALL UBUNTU LULZ" people, users usually don't know that anything they'll type into the Dash will be made public.