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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhux View Post
    Software does not go away. It may be discontinued though. So is free software occasionally.
    Do you take over development of all free software you use which is discontinued? Well, fine for you, but I wouldn't even have the time for that.

    Either I'd stick with the last version or I'll look for an alternative. No matter if the particular software is free or not. Sorry, but if I need a new hammer, I'll buy one instead of building one myself. Again: For me, a tool is primarily a tool and nothing else.


    Congratulations. I don't need it.


    ... with the risk being that you might need to search for an alternative one day? Alright.
    What if your work required something that is very specific and the proprietary alternatives didn't provide what you need?

    At least with Free Software, if the software doesn't do what I need it to do, I could fill the gap and code it myself, or hire someone else to do it for me.

    And no, I don't take over when a Free Software project is discontinued, other people usually do that with forks and such. But I would if I have to.

    My point is that it's just easier to get screwed with proprietary software.
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    Quote Originally Posted by asdx View Post
    What if your work required something that is very specific and the proprietary alternatives didn't provide that?
    I work as a web developer. I seriously doubt this will ever happen.

    Quote Originally Posted by asdx View Post
    My point is that it's just easier to get screwed with proprietary software.
    ... with "getting screwed" meaning "having to change one day in the very far future". Alright.
    Do you only use free drivers BTW?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhux View Post
    I work as a web developer. I seriously doubt this will ever happen.


    ... with "getting screwed" meaning "having to change one day in the very far future". Alright.
    Do you only use free drivers BTW?
    Yes, nouveau on my desktop and Intel on my laptop.

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    What about WiFi and motherboard chipsets?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhux View Post
    What about WiFi and motherboard chipsets?
    Wireless is Intel, so it's open source.

    All the drivers I use are in the kernel, so it's all FOSS.

    The only thing that is proprietary in my machines is the BIOS.

    Personally I can't stand blobs.

    Can't wait for Coreboot to get more support, etc.
    Last edited by asdx; 12-12-2012 at 03:22 AM.

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    Well, congratulations on a machine which allows that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhux View Post
    ... with "getting screwed" meaning "having to change one day in the very far future". Alright.
    I find it curious how you completely skip the malware and privacy implications of using proprietary software. They are a rather big part of "getting screwed" by it, on top of possibly losing the ability to use it any time.

    Many of them call home. Many of them track you without even informing you. And this is just the benign part of them - more nefarious proprietary software outright does anything it can.


    Or, to use a web example, if you use some forum you don't have the source to (say, vbulletin), how can you know they properly hash the users' passwords?

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    Quote Originally Posted by curaga View Post
    I find it curious how you completely skip the malware and privacy implications of using proprietary software.
    Do you imply that free software is always malware-free just because you can see its alleged source code?

    Quote Originally Posted by curaga View Post
    Many of them call home. Many of them track you without even informing you.
    Like Ubuntu does with its Amazon dash? Aye.
    Proprietary, huh?

    Quote Originally Posted by curaga View Post
    Or, to use a web example, if you use some forum you don't have the source to (say, vbulletin), how can you know they properly hash the users' passwords?
    Because there is no closed-source bulletin board system. Technically impossible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhux View Post
    Don't worry, your mommy will be here soon.
    good comeback dude, I haven't heard it since I was like 5 years old.


    here's a better one:


    Your mom is so BSD


    Best at Sucking Dick




    those boxes are filled with gay porn, that's why that satanik thing is so happy...


    seriously now dude, just trying to save you from a life of sin homosex bsd and devil worshipping...

    download fedora and whatever and pretend you never heard about bsd

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pallidus View Post
    download fedora and whatever and pretend you never heard about bsd
    I run Fedora on one box and am not impressed by its tries to be a superior system than BSD.

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