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Here's our Nouveau hero at it once again. I guess we all have to understand and express our deepest condolences towards your brain that's just not advanced enough to process the matter in hand.Originally Posted by asdx
Well, please, let me know what do you think of the fact that I absolutely despise Nouveau and would rather see it burn and then spit on the ashes... because, you see, you believe it's an actual person that will hurt it's feelings once you start talking bad sh*t behind it's back.
Also please let me know what he thinks!
Well, my dear friend, as if it were any of your business the one I wanted was taken and I'm not very good at coming up with names for the internets so I just went with the distro I wanted to show my appreciation to. For your ass, my previous nick name has been "Intrepid Ibex" for quite some time.
So you see it has nothing at all to do with me being some elitist wannabe may it be your beautiful logic that would inevitably come to such conclusion or not, because, you know, you're a moron.
And your "joke" that you're so pleased to be praising here is not only _not_ funny and irrelevant but even goes so far as to tell me that your sense of humor is actually so worthless that it's invalid.
Maybe one day you'll see what I'm talking about and be able to fully appreciate this brain-deadiness you seem to pack in this somewhat stupidly malformed object that you call your own head.
Last edited by ArchLinux; 12-08-2012 at 11:11 AM.
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If you are using Ubuntu, in what sense are you not a Ubuntu user? You really seem to use strange definitions for ordinary words.
And nothing else you said changed the fact that it is spyware, by the ordinary, standard definition of the word (although perhaps not by your extra special unique personal definition). Some people don't like spyware. It has been like that since it was invented. If you can't accept that, perhaps you should get off the internet.
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so... let me see, by that definition I am:
a knoppix user, an archbang user, an elementary luna user, an opensuse user, a bodhi user... shall I go on?
Installing something and using it more than a few times in live sessions = being an user
it is NOT SPYWARE IT IS ADWARE.... IT DOESNT LOG YOUR KEYSTROKES IT DOESNT STEAL YOUR INFO
TO ANYONE COMING FROM WINDOWS OR OS X THE WORD 'SPYWARE' HAS A MUCH DARKER AND TWISTED CONNOTATION CAN YOU FUCKING GET THAT TRU YOUR CUNTY LITTLE HEAD???????
this is what suprises me about fucking linux.... I swear from the first moment I used it I was like "shit, are you serious? a system this good and I never heard about it and it's free?? gimp, vlc, libre, chromium wtf??? why aren't more people using it"
and then you fucking SEE WHY
IT IS BECAUSE THE LINUX COMMUNITY IS FILLED WITH NECKBEARDED CUNTS that don't know shit about interfaces or design or ease of use
they get 3 inch erections when they hear that fat fuck from valve but they don't care about REVOLUTIONARY shit like elementary os or setting standards.
best case scenario that african guy says "fuck all you cunts, ubuntu is over, fuck me in the ass if you think I'm spending anymore money on this shit"
WTF HAVE YOU ACCOMPLISHED??
SINCE I AM NOW USING LINUX I RECOGNIZE THAT REDHATS/CANONICAL/NOVELL/FUCKWHATEVER SUCESS IS GOING TO BE GOOD FOR ME AS IT WILL TRICKLE DOWN
SO PRAY TELL YOU CUNTS WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF DAMAGING A DISTRO REP TO THE POINT OF NOBODY WANTING TO TOUCH IT ????
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Dude, you're losing it. Step away from that keyboard and calm down: you're not going to get your point across this way.
If there's one thing I learnt as a primary Windows user (my computing time is now split to approximately 70% on Windows (hey, i NEED the extra functions and features MS Office, SQL Server and Visual Studio offer) and 30% Fedora), it is that wishing for the death of any corporation, business, or software is the worst thing anyone can do. And it's good to see that you understand this as well. As Mark Twain famously declared "the reports of my death are greatly exaggerated", it's downright impossible to predict when a distro / OS / company will go under based on a bunch of so-called "symptoms" as perceived by the public.
Most people don't seem to understand that the loss of Ubuntu will have a cascading effect much greater than what they are predicting. I can't provide hard links, but off the top of my head at least half of all available distros available to day are Debian-derived, with Ubuntu-based distros taking the lion's share of that half. If Ubuntu really goes under you can really kiss those Ubuntu-based distros goodbye because they will no longer have any direction for further advancement considering how dependant they are on the survival of Ubuntu. And switching to Debian is really not an option for many who cannot stand having to deal with stale and outdated software packages in the Stable branch.
In the same vein, pundits predicting or even outright calling for the death of Apple and Microsoft simply have no idea about the consequences of such situations. If Apple goes under, the creative industry is going to take a huge hit considering how deeply entrenched Apple is in this particular sector. It does not matter if Adobe Creative Suite is available in both OS X and Windows versions: those graphics artists, designers and what-else-have-you have grown accustomed to their personal workflow in OS X and telling them to take their work over to Windows is as good as breaking their hands and forcing them to draw a picture after that.
The loss of Windows and Microsoft, should it ever happen, is not something anyone should ever entertain, simply because the entire global enterprise structure will grind to a screeching halt. Linux may rule the day where web servers are concerned (word as it that Apache's httpd holds a massive 80% of that market), but where internal, non-web servers are concerned it's a two-horse race between Windows Server (approx 45%) and Linux (approx 55%). Lastly, even though Microsoft is greatly weakened today, it still commands no less than 70% of the desktop OS market. The fallout of a Microsoft collapse is just unthinkable, to say the least. Linux MIGHT be able to fill the void in the event of such an outcome, but it will take at least an entire decade (or even three) to get the world properly migrated off, and even then the damage to the world's economy has already been done, and no one can gurantee that things will continue to work the same way as before. That OS X users can actually understand this says a lot about the status quo: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1481060
But you're not going to drive this message home by resorting to name calling and typing in caps.
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You haven't answered my question, and instead you choose to bash a project that is completely unrelated to this whole discussion. But luckily, morons like you have zero influence in projects like nouveau, and nouveau is here to stay, so fuck off.
So you prove you have zero creativity in even choosing a name for you, that just gives me the impression that you are a clueless brainless sheep. I guess that's why you weren't able to answer my question properly.
Last edited by asdx; 12-08-2012 at 12:37 PM.
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Why do you think the FREE SOFTWARE FOUNDATION would recommend a distro that has non-free software in their own repositories or on install? That kind of misses the point of what the foundation themselves set out to do
No, they haven't
You have no proof to back that up, and are claiming the FSF would take away your freedom to install non-free software if they had the chance. I tried trisquel once and had no problem enabling a third party repo with non-free software and installing my drivers (though it was completely missing the point.)
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Since that any web browser, Windows, Apple OSs, XBOX, PS3, Android, Steam, and including Phoronix phorums..., etc gathers user information about his preferences and habits, who cares about the definition of spyware? One thing is that a system take usage data information, and another very different thing is to steal data, and Ubuntu is not stealing data. And I insist. Acussing without any prove doesn't have any validity.
In my opinion this is a witch hunting against Canonycal. Ubuntu stealing user data is a very serious accusation. Ubuntu is gathering usage information like Google, Microsoft, Apple, Valve, Mozilla, Dropbox, American Express, the US Government, AT&T, the ONU and any other organization. If you seriously think that Stallman is right, please, don't use your self phone, your credit card, don't use the Internet, unplug your computer and go to the most remote place in Earth.
Seriously, I don't understand Stallman, I think he claimed for good several years ago, but now I think he is becoming mad. He says he claims for freedom, which I think it's something very good, but I think that any claim should be made in a responsible way.
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Spyware has nothing to do with 'stealing data', it's transmitting data that was meant to query the local computer/network behind the user's back and most people normal people wouldn't have a clue. Google Chrome has a similar problem with search suggestions, sending any keystrok you make in what would normally be the address bar back to Google. You only knew about this because people have been whining about it for months.
What's funny is Microsoft is probably more respecting of privacy with their new remote search handler or whatever they call it in Metro on a per app basis.
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The fact is that as Linux become more and more commercial more people that don't care about open source principles will use Linux.
And you can forget to convince the 99.9% of the people in the world. If you want, of course.
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Absolutely!
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