Richard Stallman Calls Ubuntu "Spyware"

[curaga]

Yikes, 8 pages already.

Couldn't it just be that jono's site got a lot of trafic since sites like phoronix/slashdot linked at his blog?

Don't ruin their circle jerk

You two need to calibrate your sarcasm detectors.

The problem with Stallman and his religious cult that calls themselves Free Software Foundation is that their views/beliefs/and opinions don't solve the everyday problems that users have to face. Until they address problems like high performing apps that get things done and highly performing HW with FOSS firmwares better rename themselves to Unusable Computer Foundation.

Funny how that goes Without a free compiler, toolchain, and editor there likely wouldn't be a free OS for you to use today. If that's not "getting things done", I don't know what is.

[AJenbo]

Settings->Privacy->Include online results dosn't seam like the hardest opt out in the world. Granted it's not clear what the privacy issue is.

[pingufunkybeat]

Funny how that goes Without a free compiler, toolchain, and editor there likely wouldn't be a free OS for you to use today. If that's not "getting things done", I don't know what is.

Indeed! The lack of perspective here is overwhelming.

RMS did three major things. He didn't do them alone, but was the driving force behind them, and without him, we wouldn't have them:

- Emacs
- GCC and the rest of the GNU toolchain
- GPL

The first one is not important to everyone. The third one made Linux and everything around it possible, the second one was what made Linux and all the BSDs and everything Apple does today possible.

If someone doesn't like his hairstyle or his opinions, fine, knock yourself out. But talking about how he is not doing the "real things" for "the people"? He is 60 years old now, FFS, he did the "real things" that make everything you touch today possible, and he did them 30 years ago. Now he's a Free Software advocate, a movement he started, and which began as a couple of command-line tools, and which now runs most supercomputers, as well as providing software for almost everything anyone would ever want to do on a programmable computer.

If somebody doesn't see this, there is no helping them. Go ahead and hate him, I don't care, and neither does he.

[rudolph_steinberg]

- Emacs
- GCC and the rest of the GNU toolchain
- GPL

Don't go ruining a good fanboy rant with facts, what has he done for us lately?

[pingufunkybeat]

Don't go ruining a good fanboy rant with facts, what has he done for us lately?

Yes, absolutely. Instead of rolling up our sleeves and attacking the problems of our generation ourselves (like RMS did in his time), we should sit here and moan and bitch so RMS keeps solving all our problems until he is 100.

Because if a 60-year old pioneer who almost single-handedly started the movement that gave us all our software doesn't create a slick product to compete with teh Apple and teh Mikrosoft, then "we" will shower him with ridicule because he, the 60-year-old man has not himself rewritten all the firmware in the world. I mean, he only re-wrote Unix (with lots of other people, of course). But today's kids are not easy to please. No, he must rewrite the firmware of my new Lexus, otherwise the kids will hate him, because the kids today are spoilt brats.

[peperoni]

Yes, absolutely. Instead of rolling up our sleeves and attacking the problems of our generation ourselves (like RMS did in his time), we should sit here and moan and bitch so RMS keeps solving all our problems until he is 100.

Because if a 60-year old pioneer who almost single-handedly started the movement that gave us all our software doesn't create a slick product to compete with teh Apple and teh Mikrosoft, then "we" will shower him with ridicule because he, the 60-year-old man has not himself rewritten all the firmware in the world. I mean, he only re-wrote Unix (with lots of other people, of course). But today's kids are not easy to please. No, he must rewrite the firmware of my new Lexus, otherwise the kids will hate him, because the kids today are spoilt brats.

Yes, he deserves respect, even if we think he is wrong and we see he doesn't respect others.

[rudolph_steinberg]

Yes, absolutely. Instead of rolling up our sleeves and attacking the problems of our generation ourselves (like RMS did in his time), we should sit here and moan and bitch so RMS keeps solving all our problems until he is 100.

Because if a 60-year old pioneer who almost single-handedly started the movement that gave us all our software doesn't create a slick product to compete with teh Apple and teh Mikrosoft, then "we" will shower him with ridicule because he, the 60-year-old man has not himself rewritten all the firmware in the world. I mean, he only re-wrote Unix (with lots of other people, of course). But today's kids are not easy to please. No, he must rewrite the firmware of my new Lexus, otherwise the kids will hate him, because the kids today are spoilt brats.

I think your sarcasm detector isn't working, mate... Although I appreciate your spirit.

[pingufunkybeat]

I think your sarcasm detector isn't working, mate...

Err, I think yours isn't.

I was just continuing my rant

[TheBlackCat]

I The problem, in my opinion is that those kind of strategies are legal. I think it should be ilegal to share even statistical data. But while they continue being legal, though unethical, I think it's unfair to blame some companies for using that kind of strategies

Huh? Are you seriously saying it is "unfair" to point out when companies are being unethical? No has claimed what they are doing is illegal, no one is claiming they should be prosecuted for anything. All anyone claimed is that what they are doing is unethical and that some people don't like it when companies act in an unethical manner. What is wrong with that? What is the point of even having the concept of ethics if we aren't allowed to criticize someone for being unethical?

[steveriley]

Let us pray.

Hail Stallman, full of indignation.
Our copy is left with thee.
Noisy art thou among the hirsute,
and invisible is the fruit of thy code,
Hurd.
Stubborn Richard, father of GNU,
chill-out for us Linuxers,
now and at the cron of our tab.
Kmen.