What Linux Users Are Saying About GNOME In 2012 (Part 1)

[misterpah]

if you know some gnome3 haters (and they keep bitching about gnome3), ask them if they created a Desktop Environment yet.
Linux Mint did it. They forked Gnome-shell and name it Cinnamon.
You don't like it? Fine! Just fork the Gnome-shell and make your own "we-hate-gnome-shell" desktop environment , or "we-love-gnome-two" desktop environment.
Heck, you can even make "Windows-xp-for-gnome-shell" desktop environment. YOU CAN DO IT!
IT IS JUST A SHELL!
Only by manipulating javascript , CSS (and some fancy language you don't use so much) , you can create an Euphoric Desktop Environment from the gnome-shell which will be adored generations to come.

we love gnome-shell. I love gnome-shell. I choose to love Gnome-shell.
you love KDE ? sure! it's your love. It's your choice. It's not mine , its yours.


PS :
You know, there are too much trolls these days. Thanks to place like 4chan & Reddit (both are great by the way), trolls can unite to spam surveys. They (4CHAN) made Kim Jong Un as the person of the year. For me, Gnome survey 2012 have 1000 respondent is a good thing. less "go kill yourself" comments means less troll and more accurate results.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_2212571.html

[gens]

Not sure if directed at me, or mayankleoboy1.
I am talking about users in general. If there is one thing I remember from my Software Engineering classes, then it is that users (in general) have no clue about what they want. Asking them what they want can actually be destructive.
It is of course a generalization, but it is worth to keep in mind.

it was really directed at everybody

i was in sales for a while, and "people are sheep" was our moto for that time, sheep as in they will flock where they see other people flock (its true)
if you deal with a person you know and you can tell him/her "that will be dumb" without them getting angry, then you can make a good whatever it is you'r makeing
if you cant, you can only rely on common sense(your's and those around you)
as i see the gnome3 devs didnt get much freedom(i dont know)
(G. S. Patton: "Don't tell people how to do things, tell them what to do and let them surprise you with their results.")

actually i dont wanna get into this discussions, as theres too many variables and thus too many opinions
what i can point out is GIMP as an example of doing the user_feedback/dev_freedom thing right


also i can put my personal opinion that is: its just the couple small things that bug me with gnome3, combined with the inability to change/affect them

edit: also that bugs me are people like misterpah that are narrow minded and just like insulting others

[rafirafi]

I hope no gnome dev will buy gasoline to make a bbq with himself.

[3coma3]

I hope no gnome dev will buy gasoline to make a bbq with himself.

yeah and some GNOME fans cry too, as shown here

sad they can't just MAKE THA WHINEYS SHUT UP once and for all heh?

[newwen]

My biggest problem with Gnome 3 is not Gnome Shell, which I find better than Unity (even tough I'd wish I had not to install extensions to make it work).

What annoys me is that devs think that removing features is a feature, which is not, at least not for laptop and desktop computers with no input and screen limitations. They are going the same route Windows 8 has gone and this is disastrous for the linux desktop. I've alwas loved the elegance of gnome2, but this road of making gnome even dumber than windows 8 is simply silly.

They don't even care for backwards compatibility, which is bad for the linux desktop (read Miguel de Icaza's article about this)

[BO$$]

If the survey would have said that gnome is great you wouldn't have said that the survey was bad. Now that it says that it sucks you say that it's irrelevant because it was a bad survey. Nice try gnome devs.

[Detructor]

must resist not replying to the stupid troll

[Roberto Dirksen]

My biggest problem with Gnome 3 is not Gnome Shell, which I find better than Unity (even tough I'd wish I had not to install extensions to make it work).

What annoys me is that devs think that removing features is a feature, which is not, ...

No, they think removing useless features is an improvement, which it is. Gnome 3 is a lot better than Gnome 2. It's easily the best Linux DE.

[F i L]

I don't understand why so many people are upset. I use Gnome-Shell 3.6 on Arch Linux and I love this DE. It's fast, elegant, and it encourages a productive multi-workspace workflow (and makes that actually usable). It has it's problems, sure, for instance it should really have the functionality of Dash-to-Dock built in by default, but for the most part it's great.

I also don't see why everyone wants a damn Minimize/Maximize button... this is the point of multiple workspaces. It takes much longer to click a little minimize button than it does to switch a workspace. And for Maximize.. just double click or drag to the top.. it's not hard. I love how the windows only have a Close box, the concept is so much simpler than other DE's it's a breath of fresh air.

It seems like most of the haters just want Gnome2 back... why not simply use Mate or XFCE or LXDE or Cinnamon?

The only DE that looks comparable to Gnome-Shell, IMO, is Gala (Pantheon)... and only then if it gives Plant the option to be a side-bar (auto-hiding horizontal bars on vertically-stacked multi-monitor setups don't work so hot). Cinnamon is also good looking, but I like Window7-style taskbar icons instead of WindowsXP-style ones.. plus it need side-bar taskbar functionality.

[StephanG]

I think many of you are missing the point.

The Gnome devs, work on Gnome, because it is near to their heart. For reasons, that are they may or may not be able to articulate. But, regardless, that is not up for discussion. They work on Gnome because they want to. Period.

The survey, is only to help them choose where/how to spend their limited man-hours. And, I dare say, that should be the ONLY thing a survey helps them to do. Unfortunately, the whole thing seemed to have gone sour very quickly.

I think it would have been far more productive to make a survey that asks:

"On a scale of 1 to 10, how strong do you feel Gnome's ... is?"

A - Security
B - Stability
C - Et cetera

Do you think we should focus on:

A - New features
B - Cross Desktop Compatibility
C - Et cetera

That way, it would have been MUCH easier to see exactly, which components gnome suers really want the devs to work on. And, it would have painted a much better picture to the Gnome devs of how well their users think their doing.

But, things went awry by inviting anything to be said. There should be some boundaries.