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    Default Windows is dying

    I was tired of reading the forum about FreeBSD dying. The obvious fact is that Windows is dying.

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    True.

    In two months Windows 8 was only able to accumulate 2% desktop market share.

    Wait... isn't that double what all the Linux distros have combined after two decades of work?


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    I particularly liked the news headline about how Win8 is behind Vista adoption at the same time after launch of each.

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    Windows is not dying. But it is rapidly becoming less relevant.
    Asymco reported on this already a year ago: http://www.asymco.com/2012/01/17/the...nal-computing/

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    Windows will die when pigs grow wings and fly.

    Just Visual Studio, Microsoft SQL Server and Active Directory are more than enough to keep Windows alive as both a client and server operating system for another two decades at the very least. And those are only 3 of many other top-grade Windows-only software that Microsoft has published for Windows.

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    Default oh lawd

    How stupid can you get?
    http://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/01/...with-microsoft

    Anti-Trust anyone? The only modernization they need is Ubuntu.

    Wait a minute, Buzz Wordy is on the horn telling me everything is magically possible with Server 2012 and SharePoint.

    Country is going to shit.

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    Default your argument proves the point

    Quote Originally Posted by Sonadow View Post
    Windows will die when pigs grow wings and fly.

    Just Visual Studio, Microsoft SQL Server and Active Directory are more than enough to keep Windows alive as both a client and server operating system for another two decades at the very least. And those are only 3 of many other top-grade Windows-only software that Microsoft has published for Windows.
    They call it "the legacy effect" or "coasting" or "rely on customers with long development cycles".

    By this same criterion FORTRAN and COBOL are still "very much alive". There is lots and lots of "top-grade COBOL-only software" out there. "Top grade" means it's been 10 years since anyone has found a bug in it.

    "top-grade Windows-only software" = same old same old attempt to "lock in" customers. SCREW industry standards, SCREW the customer too! Hint: the customer is learning!

    Really if what you say is best argument you have, you are basically agreeing: Windows is in the same state as COBOL and FORTRAN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonadow View Post
    Windows will die when pigs grow wings and fly.

    Just Visual Studio, Microsoft SQL Server and Active Directory
    Your argument is circular. Those exist strictly to support themselves. To employ a circular counter argument, as they become less relevant, they become less relevant.

    To use a non-circular argument, as regular people stop using MS platforms, the MS "infrastructure" in place to support MS platforms becomes less relevant and therefore less used.

    are more than enough to keep Windows alive as both a client and server operating system for another two decades at the very least. And those are only 3 of many other top-grade Windows-only software that Microsoft has published for Windows.
    There isn't anything "top grade" about those. MS really doesn't offer anything that doesn't exist strictly for the support of themselves (circular). Not a single one of their products can't be replaced by superior alternatives. People use those for the same reason why teenage girls and the people who sit at starbukks buy apple; because that is what they know as "cool" as a result of it being pushed on them by aggressive and deceptive marketing.

    The move towards super-mobile computing (and away from MS) automatically makes rational people AVOID the example products you suggest since they are basically incompatible and/or useless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnc View Post
    Wait... isn't that double what all the Linux distros have combined after two decades of work?
    There is one little difference: M$ could enforce OEMs to do what they want under risk of losing some preferences and "discounts". Which effectively means that MS could seriously wreck OEM's business if OEM refuses to play under rules from MS. As the result, each and every OEM sells most of PCs/notebooks with Windows preinstalled. And MS requires to preinstall Win8 these days. So it doomed to gain some market share because... because it's gettings quite a troublesome to buy PC or notebook without win8 crap. Linux is not distributed these ways. And "defaults will prevail", you know.

    However there is something interesting:
    1) 2% indicates that nobody has been excited about this OS. It's really a crap. People only buy it when some hardware fails and they have to replace. Then they eat this crap due to lack of other options.
    2) PC market is no match to mobile markets these days. That's where M$ has epically failed. WinPhone7/8? WinRT? Oh, they should rename it to EPIC FAIL.
    3) All this causes M$ empire to collapse. At the end of day they're losing ability to control OEMs. They're starting to prefer android and other things. Because they can't have good margins with win8 anyway due to market saturation and problematic OS look and feel.

    Sure, Titanic can't sunk in just a minute. It's way too huge. Yet it looks like if they've already hit their iceberg.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnc View Post
    True.

    In two months Windows 8 was only able to accumulate 2% desktop market share.

    Wait... isn't that double what all the Linux distros have combined after two decades of work?



    Last time I remember, Linux together with dual installations, has 10% of desktops and laptops. If you count tablets and smartphones (android, eventually from a java toy, will be a full C++ distribution, LLVM based probably), Linux(GPL) just destroys closed (Windows and Mac) and BSD semi-closed things all together.

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