Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 120

Thread: Nokia is dying (thanks to microsoft)

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Posts
    1,946

    Default Nokia is dying (thanks to microsoft)

    [Blam]

    "While RIM will likely survive by evolving into a smaller form, Nokia looks to be headed to another, more grim fate. The Finnish handset giant has lost its identity by dumping its own smartphone OS efforts and embracing Windows Phone. It lost its market leadership in overall phone sales to Samsung. Nokia bled billions of dollars in losses over the last year and is now worth just 10 percent of what it was 5 years ago.
    ...
    CEO Stephen Elop said in February 2011 that the company was looking at a two-year "transition period," and his time is just about up; many feel he needs to go in order for Nokia to survive. "


    Mind you, they nearly destroyed Qt as well.

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    SuperUserLand
    Posts
    534

    Default

    they put a microsoft troll in charge and also took a billion dollars from microsoft.


    mind you if they went with android, like everyone said they should, they would just be another HTC, sony etc etc


    I think they should have developed their own linux based OS like tizen... maybe offer that one or use webos and diversify their offerings.



    But that should have been done in 2008ish when they were still relevant. And there you go, the only one european cell phone maker (relevant) is killed by american corp.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Posts
    1,443

    Default

    I live in the country Nokia is from and I've been following the development of the company somewhat for the last few years.

    All I can say is, Elop is either a clever plant, or a colossally incompetent moron. The sheer stupidity of his decisions is so absurd, it's hard to believe that someone that incompetent could be in that line of work, which makes the first option quite likely and many here are of the opinion that he was deliberately planted in Nokia to bring it down.

    The decisions he has made are simply one catastrophe after another. Nokia was the leading cellphone maker when he got in charge, and in just a few years he managed to squander the entire company in a way worthy of a million facepalms. Ever since Elop got in charge, watching Nokia has been like watching a train wreck - it's horrible, but you just can't look away.

    But that's not to say Elop is the only one to blame. He's probably just doing what his sith master Darth Ballmer wants him to do. The ones I would assign the most blame are the board of Nokia. They are the ones who let that clown in charge, who have stood by while he's squandered the assets of the company and done nothing while the stock of Nokia has plummeted. If there were any justice in the world, both Elop and the board of Nokia would be charged and convicted as criminals, but seeing how the Finnish justice system is a corrupt organ that takes orders from that circle-jerk of businessmen and politicians who treat this country as their personal playground, that's not likely to happen.

    Here's what I think happened - this is just my own conjecture, so take it with a grain of salt: just before Elop, Nokia was suffering from a lack of direction and proper, strong leadership. They were scared of Apple's success, and they couldn't figure out a way to move with the times. So rather than admit their ignorance and seek help, maybe from some up-and-coming visionary who knows about today's technology, maybe someone in-house who was involved with the Meego project, they made a deal with Microsoft. Maybe they were too proud to admit they needed help, or maybe they got greedy. Either way, Microsoft probably gave them a nice inside deal - the board could save their own assess by making this deal putting that clown Elop in charge. They probably knew that the company would be destroyed, but they figured they could make some nice profits for themselves, buy new cars and summer houses and something nice for the little missus.

    And Microsoft could only win from the deal: either Elop would succeed in riding Nokia's success and thus giving their Windows Phone platform - which was already in trouble at that time - a nice boost, or he would bring down Nokia with him and Microsoft could utilize Nokia's patent portfolio to hinder their competition. The deal was so risky to Nokia, so profitable for Microsoft, it's hard to believe the entire board would not have foreseen it. That is why I suspect an inside deal with the board and Microsoft.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Italy
    Posts
    87

    Default

    Nokia is the prime example as a corporate mismanagement can lead to ruin a company.
    But since, as usual, the only who lose are the end users, given that competition will decrease while the top managers will keep their huge benefit in any case, is pretended that a system where few people command without assuming any financial responsibility on their shoulders, is perfect.

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Arctic circle, Finland
    Posts
    271

    Default

    Nah they have biggest essential mobile hardware patent portfolio that they can't just die. And their stocks are now 16% up after telling positive Q4:
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...9090LA20130110

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Posts
    1,946

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by tuke81 View Post
    Nah they have biggest essential mobile hardware patent portfolio that they can't just die. And their stocks are now 16% up after telling positive Q4:
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...9090LA20130110

    NOKIA FALL IN MARKET SHARE ANNUALLY 2009-2012
    YEAR 2009 - 39%
    YEAR 2010 - 35%
    YEAR 2011 - 16%
    YEAR 2012 - 5%

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Posts
    1,443

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by tuke81 View Post
    Nah they have biggest essential mobile hardware patent portfolio that they can't just die. And their stocks are now 16% up after telling positive Q4:
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...9090LA20130110
    You mean the patent portfolio that is being silently siphoned over to microsoft's proxy trolls? That same one?

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Posts
    2

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by alelinuxbsd View Post
    Nokia is the prime example as a corporate mismanagement can lead to ruin a company.
    But since, as usual, the only who lose are the end users, given that competition will decrease while the top managers will keep their huge benefit in any case, is pretended that a system where few people command without assuming any financial responsibility on their shoulders, is perfect.
    It's sad how nokia is ruined.

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Posts
    342

    Default

    Besides Apple and Samsung is it anyone of the other phone maker that do better than Nokia?

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Posts
    83

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by nixcraft View Post
    It's sad how nokia is ruined.
    They deserve it.

    Nothing can be clearer from the true.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •