Nokia is dying (thanks to microsoft)

[0xBADCODE]

It seems nokia has been picking up bad habits from their new sugar daddy microsoft.

Nokia has been recently caught violating user privacy: Nokia cell phones route secure https connections via their own servers and decrypt your data

Well, that's what you can expect from proprietary corporations and proprietary software: they always try to fool their customers and treating them like retards. That's one of major reasons to stay away from these as far as you can. I'm personally consider proprietary software untrusted by default. Availability of source is a good indication that program vendor respects fair play. Sure, it's dumb to release sources if you backdoored and trojanized something: this increases chance to get caught and allows to uncloak this treason faster.

[0xBADCODE]

One can only wonder if this was the inspiration for the latest line of nokia phones.

Oh... MS wants their market share. They want to be like an apple. Unfortunately for them, they're not an apple. They're NUTS.

[nixcraft]

Nokia is the prime example as a corporate mismanagement can lead to ruin a company.
But since, as usual, the only who lose are the end users, given that competition will decrease while the top managers will keep their huge benefit in any case, is pretended that a system where few people command without assuming any financial responsibility on their shoulders, is perfect.

It's sad how nokia is ruined.

[Akka]

Besides Apple and Samsung is it anyone of the other phone maker that do better than Nokia?

[LightBit]

HTC, maybe?

[Akka]

Nokia did a much better q4 than htc.

[dee.]

Nokia did a much better q4 than htc.

Lol. Yeah no. It didn't. These are the Q4 sales results:

1 - Samsung - 63.7 million (preliminary)
2 - Apple - 47.8 million
3 - Huawei - (approx 20 million)
4 - ZTE - 12.5 million
5 - either Sony or Lenovo - (Sony likely sold about 10.5 million)
6 - ether Lenovo or Sony - Lenovo sold 9.8 million
7 - LG - 8.6 million
8 - HTC - 7.0 million
9 - RIM - 6.9 million
10 - either Nokia or Yulong/Coolpad - Nokia sold 6.6 million

[Akka]

Nokia sold 4.4 million lumia phone (their premium phone 920 was released late in the quarter and in limited market and had supply restraint)
they sold 2.2 million symbian phone
and 9.3 million asha phone
If you count the non smartphone they totally sold around 80 million phones in q4.

Much less than when they was as biggest. But if you look at the market, most of the phone maker besides Apple and Samsung did negative result q4. Nokia made $580 million in operating profit how much came from the device unit I'm unsure about. I suppose Nokia-Siemens was the most profitable part of the company. But I got the impression both the device and services unit and Nokia-Siemens got a better q4 than earlier q in 2012.

[systemd rulez]

Well, that's what you can expect from proprietary corporations and proprietary software: they always try to fool their customers and treating them like retards. That's one of major reasons to stay away from these as far as you can. I'm personally consider proprietary software untrusted by default. Availability of source is a good indication that program vendor respects fair play. Sure, it's dumb to release sources if you backdoored and trojanized something: this increases chance to get caught and allows to uncloak this treason faster.

I find nokia being similiar to BSD except BSD knows and has experienced the consequences but still continue to open their anuses of Apple and Microsoft.

So BSD is more shit

[systemd rulez]

It's sad how nokia is ruined.

They deserve it.

Nothing can be clearer from the true.