Aggressive Low Memory Booster For The Linux Kernel

[GreatEmerald]

As for BO$$, necro-lover and frantaylor: Please, take your fingers out of your ears and stop doing 'lalalala' while at it mkay? Please respect each others opinion, how boldly stated it may appear to you.

Oh come on, troll-on-troll battles are always fun to watch

[BO$$]

fglrx is very buggy and unstable in comparison. Would you really like new users get the image that linux is just as crashy as Windows, only because of AMD's blob being preinstalled?

You should also quantify your game argument. If I see 50% of the fps, using 0.5% of the lines of code, its efficiency beats that of fglrx by a huge amount.

Which is why I was saying that AMD should focus on fglrx and not put resources in the open source driver. More people working on fixing fglrx will have more impact than more people working on radeon. You may see 50% of the fps, using 0.5% of the lines of code, but for the other 50% perhaps the 99.5% are required. Don't assume that AMD is full of idiots and open source full of geniuses. Maybe that code is there for a reason, not just to take up space.

[necro-lover]

No, actually it's useful for playing __your__ games

Exactly this is what I’m trying to tell him. But he thinks "games" is a objective fixed quantitative definition. But in fact he is wrong. Every people do have different needs and they do have different definitions of the words they use and many people really play computer-games with the radeon driver.

But he thinks he is GOD and he do have the power to judge like alpha and omega.

In fact he do only have size madness.

[necro-lover]

Which is why I was saying that AMD should focus on fglrx and not put resources in the open source driver. More people working on fixing fglrx will have more impact than more people working on radeon. You may see 50% of the fps, using 0.5% of the lines of code, but for the other 50% perhaps the 99.5% are required. Don't assume that AMD is full of idiots and open source full of geniuses. Maybe that code is there for a reason, not just to take up space.

Really dude I think exactly this: "Don't assume that AMD is full of idiots and open source full of geniuses. "

I watched the activity’s of the catalyst for years and tested it on multiple computers with multiple workloads... and its just crap!
You can use closed source with "Nvidia" but in fact you can't use closed-source with amd.
I know this because I use nvidia cards before i use amd cards on linux.

Why? simple: They(amd) give a shit about your needs in playing "games" on linux ...... I really don't go into details now because its pointless to waste any energy in this. (Catalyst=workstation driver for CATIA)

[frantaylor]

Really dude I think exactly this: "Don't assume that AMD is full of idiots and open source full of geniuses. "

I watched the activity’s of the catalyst for years and tested it on multiple computers with multiple workloads... and its just crap!
You can use closed source with "Nvidia" but in fact you can't use closed-source with amd.
I know this because I use nvidia cards before i use amd cards on linux.

Why? simple: They(amd) give a shit about your needs in playing "games" on linux ...... I really don't go into details now because its pointless to waste any energy in this. (Catalyst=workstation driver for CATIA)

This whole thread has been HIJACKED by LOSERS who are arguing about whose video card is better.

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST on EVERY computer the onus is on THE USER to make sure the computer is not trying to use more memory than it has.

If you are PLAYING A DAMNED VIDEO GAME and you run out of memory it is USER ERROR PURE AND SIMPLE.

What the ARTICLE IS ACTUALLY ABOUT is what the kernel is supposed to do in situations where there is NOT a ham-fisted computter user who thinks they can get two pulls of draft in one glass. It's about when your mail server or your database server starts to thrash, and what the kernel should do to make sure that critical services are still responsive.

The ONLY "critical service" on a video gamer''s system is the one that calculates how much money to extract from the sucker.

Okay now go ahead and brag some more about how your video card is the same one that Boeing engineers use to design battery packs. Yeah that's really impressive. Better yet go back to your video games and stop pretending that your experience is relevant.

[BO$$]

Really dude I think exactly this: "Don't assume that AMD is full of idiots and open source full of geniuses. "

I watched the activity’s of the catalyst for years and tested it on multiple computers with multiple workloads... and its just crap!
You can use closed source with "Nvidia" but in fact you can't use closed-source with amd.
I know this because I use nvidia cards before i use amd cards on linux.

Why? simple: They(amd) give a shit about your needs in playing "games" on linux ...... I really don't go into details now because its pointless to waste any energy in this. (Catalyst=workstation driver for CATIA)

I actually have the opposite experience. The AMD driver works (worked) just fine on my computer until I upgraded to Ubuntu 12.10 and had to use radeon driver. I knew when upgrading that I would have to use the radeon driver but since the damn linux kernel has a buggy driver for my network card I hoped that after upgrading that bug would go. It didn't and now I have to use the wireless card exclusively (instead of my wired card) and also can't play games anymore. Yay linux! Good thing that the kernel is solid and never crashes. Rock solid and full of shitty drivers that don't work.

[necro-lover]

I actually have the opposite experience. The AMD driver works (worked) just fine on my computer until I upgraded to Ubuntu 12.10 and had to use radeon driver. I knew when upgrading that I would have to use the radeon driver but since the damn linux kernel has a buggy driver for my network card I hoped that after upgrading that bug would go. It didn't and now I have to use the wireless card exclusively (instead of my wired card) and also can't play games anymore. Yay linux! Good thing that the kernel is solid and never crashes. Rock solid and full of shitty drivers that don't work.

The linux kernel is only solid and never crashes because its opensource!

now turn your brain on and imagine a graphik driver in the style of the opensource linux kernel............ it will be solid and never crash......

but you prefer to talk bullshit about a magic closed source shit driver.

[yogi_berra]

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST on EVERY computer the onus is on THE USER to make sure the computer is not trying to use more memory than it has.

So instead of waiting for oom_killer to kill enough random processes to free up memory, users should open top instead? Alrighty then, prime sysadmin tips from frantaylor.

[BO$$]

The linux kernel is only solid and never crashes because its opensource!

now turn your brain on and imagine a graphik driver in the style of the opensource linux kernel............ it will be solid and never crash......

but you prefer to talk bullshit about a magic closed source shit driver.

You are a fucking idiot: The linux kernel is only solid and never crashes because its opensource! I was being ironic you moron. And if something is solid and never crashes it's not because it's open source stupid idiot. There are a lot of kernels used in serious real time systems that are not open source and still never crash. Contrary to your hallucinations the linux kernel is not the shit when it comes to programming.

[necro-lover]

You are a fucking idiot: The linux kernel is only solid and never crashes because its opensource! I was being ironic you moron. And if something is solid and never crashes it's not because it's open source stupid idiot. There are a lot of kernels used in serious real time systems that are not open source and still never crash. Contrary to your hallucinations the linux kernel is not the shit when it comes to programming.

o now its clear you are a windows user brainwashed by microsoft FUD.

go play with your Xbox!