01-26-2013, 07:27 AM
Indeed. In KDE, you simply have to enter "dolphin" or "superuser" and it even gives a graphical icon that opens it with root permissions. Or K -> System -> File manager -> File manager - superuser mode. It's much, much simpler, faster and easier than logging in as root.
Originally Posted by uid313
01-26-2013, 08:29 AM
Then don't release it!!! How difficult is that?!? "Spherical Cow?!?" LOL! I agree with the other poster: what is wrong with you guys?!?
Originally Posted by AdamW
Post #8 hit the nail on the head. The neglect of Quality Control is one of the negative aspects in the Linux world. Everyone tells someone else to file bugs but people don't or when they do, they are ignored or the process is just sadly slow or unorganized. This is just one of the drawbacks of the free system but perhaps, they need to address the problem instead of releasing all these new projects at such a pace?
01-26-2013, 10:02 AM
Really doesn't matter
So ESR ended up taking the Ubuntu challenge and here comes the rest
Wonder how long it took them to adopt Slackware back in the 1990s?
01-26-2013, 01:22 PM
Best thing... EVAR!!!
Originally Posted by BO$$
01-26-2013, 01:36 PM
Lack of Quality Control
Acually, There is a very good quality control process. What is lacking is having programmers respond to the filed bugs listed in bugzilla. There is no acknowledgement.
Once a week I visit bugzilla and search for mybugs, and the list has no action. I cannot consider refiling from F18 to Rawhide, but Perhaps Rawhide buglist should include the F18 buglist.
If not a bug, close it. But be proactive and fix the bug or respond asking for more information.
01-26-2013, 02:11 PM
Only one logon is wrong
[QUOTE=LinuxID10T;308027]Or it is just standard security and you want processes to run in the background (such as in a server environment.) Also, it doesn't appear when you install another desktop environment, that is how I found this out, so wrong on both counts.[/QUOTEOnly
I have a netbook and I run Fedora. With only one logon, the only option left is suspend. On a return from suspend, the mouse pad no longer works. I have not figured out a way to revert from suspend to a fully operating system. Two users allows me to logout and to return without having to reboot. BTW, when I need to type the Euro symbol, I have to quit gnome and return with KDE (Keyboard is Canadian French)
01-26-2013, 02:34 PM
Newbies and Fedora
Originally Posted by AdamW
After 50 years in IT, I find the anaconda installer a reasonable design. Yes, there are many buglets and cosmetic changes to make to where everyone says it "Kicks Ass" (Canadian Expression).
After RC4 final Go and a week of testing, I told myself, what an easy installer it is. I also, as you know, participated in the debugging. I of course have a few machines, and very much, I prefer real hardware testing to VMs. With VMs, a masking of performance problems is hidden from the user. We think that the VM is a fair scheduler, but it is not always so.
Some of my friends are computer illiterate. They own dual core laptops, and want to upgrade from XP. Four of them followed my signature and downloaded the 64bit linux. They did not read the manual, but just preceded to install and run. So far, only complaint has been for codecs and for playing DVDs. I pointed them to RPM Fusion and thats it.
Fedora has to cater to newbies and to hard core administrators. It is next to impossible to satisfy both crowds. I know that the developers try their best. One thing we must both recognize. Most Fedora developers are under age 25, and not skilled in the ways of Newbies. And that is where you come in. Your role has to be more than testing the end-result, it has to including the approving of the approach and interface. A good program with a poor interface goes nowhere, and gives rise to rejection.
Alan Cox expressed his disappointment. He switched to another distribution, and I believe in the end, he will leave that distribution for another. I say that because we are comfortable with what we know, and are lazy to adapt to new ways to do things.
01-26-2013, 02:39 PM
Sometimes we forget
Originally Posted by frantaylor
is ok for single user systems such as laptops or, as you indicated, servers. There is no reason to keep logged in if you do not want to be. Probably a Gnome Tweak will restore the logout button. I took the simple solution of creating a locked guest account.
01-26-2013, 02:57 PM
When there is Fedora 18 bug that is severe, issue a Fedora18a
Mint14 was issued with a bug that was serious. They immediately produced a Mint14a, to replace it (One or two weeks after initial release).
Originally Posted by picasticks
Nothing wrong with Fedora doing the same.
By the way, yum install @cinnamon and use cinnamon in lieu of Gnome. You will be happy. You will be really happy.
01-26-2013, 03:08 PM
Originally Posted by AdamW
Adam, been there, have done that, and then got KITA. Only someone who walked the go live route as you (or I) have will understand.
I downloaded Fedora 32 for one system and F64 for two others. I then discovered a Fedora 18 spin from Russia, I installed that, I liked all their choice of add-ons and reinstalled it everywhere I had the Fedora18 DVD installation. The spin uses and adds to the Fedora 18 DVD.
I tested cinnamon on F18, and have abandoned Gnome until Fedora 19, if there will be a Gnome for Fedora 19. Cinnamon rocks.