Lennart Poettering Takes To Battling Systemd Myths

[Rigaldo]

True, there are other priorities for now. If the kernel would move to a more modular(if this is the correct characterization for what i mentioned) it would be beneficial, for testing drivers among other things.

On another note, I wonder if Ubuntu will eventually also transition to Systemd.
I had read something about not considering it reliable enough yet and there might be a switch after the coming LTS, but that's rumors.

[Vim_User]

systemd is the best, all who disagree are dirty BSD proprietary whores

Man, your penis must be so small that you have to troll the forums about an operating system. You complain about the code quality of the BSDs?
Well, how about showing us your code? Do you even know how to code?

[Vim_User]

Only people who love to present their asses for M$ and Apple to penetrate us vi or vim.

Get a life and use GNU EMACS or just burn yourself

vi sucks.

EMACS rulez

So more than half of the developers of your beloved Linux kernel present their asses to Microsoft and Apple, including people like Greg Kroah-Hartman. That is funny.

Also, still waiting for your code, so that we can see if it is as messy as you claim to the BSD code to be.

Man, you suck as a troll, Phoronix has seen much better trolls already, go home, make your homework and come back if you are a full blown troll, not a clueless 12 years old.

[hristo.venev]

Only people who love to present their asses for M$ and Apple to penetrate us vi or vim.

Get a life and use GNU EMACS or just burn yourself

vi sucks.

EMACS rulez

I have the feeling that this guy's favourite text editor is Notepad or MS Word.

[V!NCENT]

Didn't mention that systemd is closely tied to udev and journald and that there is a dependency there and people are forced to use it.

Not to mention the depandancy of a bootloader and memory management in the kernel! The next thing you know is that

[ulenrich]

It should not be a goal at all. Having the udev maintainer and systemd maintainer be the same person is a recipe for disaster.

It is not the goal of the Linux kernel community to abolish Udev. Systemd developers only can make some interesting offers in this regard.

Untenable situation in my opinion. Obviously, the temptation to leverage udev to accelerate the demise of systemd competitors must be strong, and chances are, irresistable.

How about then the last turmoil about udev and firmware?

The result was doing some more directly in the kernel. Thus to minimize the complexity of Udev once more. Shouldn't it be the other way round if they conspire by utilizing Udev to promote Systemd:
They should instead widen the use of Udev and its complexity just to make us more dependend ...

[funkSTAR]

Ok neckbeardos so Lennart busted all your myths. Too bad for you. Now STFU and accept your new master. Systemds adoption has reached critical mass by now and in a short while only a few sys'd refuseniks will remain and die out like the dinosaurs.

[duby229]

He didn't push pulseaudio down everyones throat. Ubuntu decided to be an early adopter and packaged a less than ideal config and so it became the quasi-standard way too early.

Also, if someone creates multiple projects which end up being picked up for the default configuration of most bigger distributions because it works better than the alternatives chances are, you're not more intelligent than him.

You've apparently never visited any major distro's bugzilla.....

[Vim_User]

Systemds adoption has reached critical mass by now

Any numbers on that? As far as I know, Ubuntu is still by far the most used distro.

[log0]

I think one of the sources of discontent with systemd might be this http://www.pappp.net/?p=969

NOT UNIX way of doing things