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    Quote Originally Posted by funkSTAR View Post
    Bullshit. The CoreOS movement is about a bunch of hackers deciding their maintainership is better handled in a unified tree based on common goals. Pick it up if you like. If you dont like it; Go eat shit from all the drama queen forksters and CLAed walled gardens. Mind you though they are doing a shit job because they waste their time on moronix flames and keeping compability between their ever more fragmented shit.
    Listen kiddo, the Linux ecosystem works best when software competes based on merit. That's what any sane user wants -- different approaches being tested, and the best ones winning out.

    Your pathological violent dictator obsession is not good for anyone, including yourself. If you are afraid of honest competition, Linux is not the operating system for you. In every thread you spew hatred on any project you yourself don't seem to be using, and wish harm and death upon open source developers. You need psychological treatment before you hurt yourself or others.

    Now, systemd guys have caused a lot of controversy recently, so yes, their management is rather confrontational. The udev breakage and the stated plan to break all Linux systems not based on systemd on their discretion are not a constructive way to work within a community. If they get off this train and interoperate with the rest of the planet, then there will be nothing wrong with systemd, and projects can once again compete on merit and not power games.

    That's it. Now go take your medicine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnc View Post
    edit: I just get an overall uneasy feeling that Red Hat (and to some degree Intel) has a bit too much influence in the Linux ecosystem. It's not just this systemd case... it's a variety of things.
    Welcome to a meritocracy man. Those who do the work get to decide the direction. If you don't like it, you're more than welcome to fork and decide for yourself (beauty of open-source) but then you have to come up with a better reason than "Its not Red Hat / Intel" to convince distros to pick up your fork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnc View Post
    I just get an overall uneasy feeling that Red Hat (and to some degree Intel) has a bit too much influence in the Linux ecosystem. It's not just this systemd case... it's a variety of things.
    Congratz. You just figured out who really pays for the development. Unless you think you are entitled to dictate what others shoulld do in their free or pay time .. BTW Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek+a bunch of other hackers are there to fuck your little conspiracy, at least at the systemd tree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ericg View Post

    systemd gets flak because its the only one adding features and therefore the only one in the news.
    This is my complaint right here... What features are there to add? Manage services.... Duh. Make sure they are started properly and closed properly... What more is there?

    Adding features seems like an excuse to obfuscate.

    It shouldnt be responsible for power management or dev management or job schedules or network interfaces or tty interfaces. Those should each be independent services that of course sysd should be able to start or close. And what happens when someone decides to develop a competing power manager or job scheduler? Why should sysd be responsible to managething infrastructure that has nothing at all to do with its main purpose?
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    Quote Originally Posted by duby229 View Post
    Adding features seems like an excuse to obfuscate.
    too bad you didnt grasp the concept of CoreOS. Systemd is not about init anymore. It is a git tree for sane core code maintained by sane people. If you dont get it by now please wrap your self in iron chains and jump into the sea.
    Last edited by funkSTAR; 01-28-2013 at 04:56 PM.

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    Most Linux installations still don't use systemd. Not to worry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by funkSTAR View Post
    too bad you didnt grasp the concept of CoreOS. Systemd is not about init anymore. It is a git tree for sane core code maintained by sane people. If you dont get by now please wrap your self in iron chains and jump into the sea.
    Fuck coreos... If thats what they want then they can implement that on its own distro.... Call it coreos.... But leave the rest of our shit alone please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnc View Post
    Was this because udev was no longer maintained and therefore could be picked off, or just a matter of all the udev maintainers agreeing to move under systemd?
    The main udev maintainer (Kay Sievers) was the one who did the merge of udev into systemd (he is also a systemd maintainer), the udev creator (Greg Kroah-Hartman) appears to be very supportive of the move. All the people (as far as I can tell) with commit rights to the original udev now has commit rights to systemd (including the Canonical guy who does all the keymap stuff in udev). I have not seen any complaints from anyone involved on any of the official lists/channels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duby229 View Post
    Fuck coreos... If thats what they want then they can implement that on its own distro.... Call it coreos.... But leave the rest of our shit alone please.
    You need a gun then. If you want to keep hackers from merging their code to systemd. Good luck with that gunman. BTW core code is not a full distro. If you dont like the new world order go fork some shit and a fool of your self. Hey you might even make the head lines on moronix. A true honor you know ..
    Last edited by funkSTAR; 01-28-2013 at 05:06 PM.

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    Its already being done... .Maybe its you who should be doing some reading.... Ignorance is no excuse....

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