Fedora 18 vs. Ubuntu 12.10, Ubuntu 13.04 Benchmarks

[phoronix]

Phoronix: Fedora 18 vs. Ubuntu 12.10, Ubuntu 13.04 Benchmarks

As the next chapter after the Fedora 17 vs. Fedora 18 benchmarks for the Red Hat sponsored Linux distribution, here are benchmarks comparing Fedora 18 to Ubuntu 12.10 and Ubuntu 13.04 on two separate PCs...

http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTI4NzQ

[BO$$]

So now it's official: Fedora 18 really is shittier than Ubuntu. Curious what the fanbois will say, since they accepted grudgingly that anaconda is shit after a lot of fight. Red Hat with gnome3 and fedora seem hellbent on destroying linux. That FUD theory that I read yesterday seems truer by the day.

[cardboard]

Why the discrepancy?

[Sergio]

Absolutely EVERY time i've given Fedora a chance there is ALWAYS an issue... last time (Fedora 17) had issue with both Intel and ATI GPU's; had the latest versions of the Xorg drivers but X wouldn't start (my chips are not latest generation so I suppose they must be supported), and Catalyst gave segmentation fault when starting X.
Ubuntu, on the other hand, just works.
Even if buggy Fedora showed faster, I would take Ubuntu (or Gentoo, or FreeBSD) any time over it.

[FourDMusic]

I've def had my problems with Fedora. But these benchmarks are totally unrepresentative in comparing the two distros.

In the article, there were 6 benchmarks shown. 3 of which ubuntu was outperformed fedora.

The total number of benchmarks run by Michael was 29. There are only THREE of which ubuntu definitely outperformed fedora (I'm not counting the cases in which the difference in performance is negligible). That's right. Most of the rest of the benchmarks, the two distributions were about equal. Two of the other benchmarks, fedora outperformed ubuntu.

I don't know if Michael just grabbed a random 6, but I should hope that he pays more attention in the future so readers do not form incorrect impressions or conclusions.

Here's a link to the other benchmarks from the article: http://openbenchmarking.org/result/1...OM75&obr_imw=y

[mmrezaie]

Can anyone explain the reason in some of the benchmarks (like apache) fedora is so slow? I wonder if there is a bug or ubuntu is using a special patch or something! In NAS benchmark seems ubuntu team are maintaining their repository very good.

[Tiger_Coder]

Can anyone explain the reason in some of the benchmarks (like apache) fedora is so slow? I wonder if there is a bug or ubuntu is using a special patch or something! In NAS benchmark seems ubuntu team are maintaining their repository very good.

Only a guess, but security system of Fedora like SELinux and/or firewall is the cause

[Rexilion]

The total number of benchmarks run by Michael was 29. There are only THREE of which ubuntu definitely outperformed fedora (I'm not counting the cases in which the difference in performance is negligible).

You prefer an article which shows 26 times the same conclusion (it's equal!) with a graph?

Reporting the major differences makes it interesting. All the more, as there should be no (or neglible) change between these distributions since they are released on about the same time.

[phil]

Dude, very poor form on only showing the benchmark graphs where Ubuntu was clearly "faster" than fedora. Yet, in another post, you compare the gaming performance of different compositors on ubuntu. From the OB.org results it seems that for some games and work loads Fedora is clearly faster than Ubuntu. Please edit the comparison post to include the subjectively relevant in game performance figures. Yes, you included a link to the openbenchmarking.org stats, but it seems to be that you have cherry picked certain results.

PLUS, if you run Fedora as a production web server then you should possibly reconsider that due to it's short development and production life cycles; unless you have a sweet as lifetime management system. The more relevant comparative bench marks, IMO, are those which are relevant to end users - desktop/laptop performance.

It would also be nice if you included the Fedora version that more closely matches the equivalent Ubuntu versions you benchmarked against to provide a more balanced comparison - either Fedora 17 or the rawhide F19 (I'm pretty sure that 13.04 is in a similar state to 19 - pre-release).

Ta,

Phil

[Rexilion]

Dude, very poor form on only showing the benchmark graphs where Ubuntu was clearly "faster" than fedora.

These were the only differing benchmarks AFAIK. No point in showing benchmarks were everything is the same.

Yet, in another post, you compare the gaming performance of different compositors on ubuntu. From the OB.org results it seems that for some games and work loads Fedora is clearly faster than Ubuntu.

Different compositors and different distributions are indeed a seperate comparison. So yes, the outcomes can be different. What is the point?

Please edit the comparison post to include the subjectively relevant in game performance figures. Yes, you included a link to the openbenchmarking.org stats, but it seems to be that you have cherry picked certain results.

FPS figures are subjective? Please explain.

PLUS, if you run Fedora as a production web server then you should possibly reconsider that due to it's short development and production life cycles; unless you have a sweet as lifetime management system. The more relevant comparative bench marks, IMO, are those which are relevant to end users - desktop/laptop performance.

This argument does not in any way invalidate said results. You argue about the different distributions used in this test. So what? Furthermore, Ubuntu and Fedora both have approx. 6 month development cycles.

It would also be nice if you included the Fedora version that more closely matches the equivalent Ubuntu versions you benchmarked against to provide a more balanced comparison - either Fedora 17 or the rawhide F19 (I'm pretty sure that 13.04 is in a similar state to 19 - pre-release).

I'm not sure, packages are frozen before the final version is rolled out.