KDE 4.10 Officially Released With Many Changes

[Panix]

KDE is PURE GARBAGE! It's overbloated crap. It freezes my machine after a while, especially with Firefox.

Also, who gives a crap about widgets?!? All of a sudden, the time will only show UTC. I wonder how many people switch from KDE to something else. I bet that is that is the highest of any DE switch. KDE to *anything*.

[Kano]

I had issues with KDE 4.8.4 and mesa 9.1 (tested with intel hd 4000). Then i compiled the wheezy kde-workspace with that patch:

https://projects.kde.org/projects/kd...opengl_glx.cpp

After that it seemed to be fixed. I never tested KDE 4.10. If you use a KDE version that has this patch it should be fine - before i had even hard xserver crashes.

[FLHerne]

Hmm. In previous threads I've expressed my satisfaction with recent KDE releases - the whole series from 4.0* to 4.9 was a continuous improvement to me (with my use-cases on my systems - it seems some people had less luck), and especially 4.6 - 4.9 were incredibly polished/stable/feature-complete.

I can't say I'm anywhere near as impressed with 4.10; there've been seemingly idiotic regressions in some areas, especially the QML-rewritten plasmoids...why bother releasing your remade versions if they have (literally) less than half the features in some cases, and break almost every use-case I could actually thing of? The new screenlocking feature doesn't actually lock the screen properly, the power-management doesn't work, plasma-desktop crashes occasionally (never in 4.8/9).

At least Nepomuk is better, some of the applications have considerable improvements and they fixed the ugly background to the various settings/help windows.

It's still my DE of choice, and hopefully 4.10.x will tidy up bugs and a few feature-regressions, but it does seem to be a backward step overall. Which is a shame.

*Yes, yes, I know *anything* could be an improvement on 4.0...

[Ericg]

Hmm. In previous threads I've expressed my satisfaction with recent KDE releases - the whole series from 4.0* to 4.9 was a continuous improvement to me (with my use-cases on my systems - it seems some people had less luck), and especially 4.6 - 4.9 were incredibly polished/stable/feature-complete.

I can't say I'm anywhere near as impressed with 4.10; there've been seemingly idiotic regressions in some areas, especially the QML-rewritten plasmoids...why bother releasing your remade versions if they have (literally) less than half the features in some cases, and break almost every use-case I could actually thing of? The new screenlocking feature doesn't actually lock the screen properly, the power-management doesn't work, plasma-desktop crashes occasionally (never in 4.8/9).

At least Nepomuk is better, some of the applications have considerable improvements and they fixed the ugly background to the various settings/help windows.

It's still my DE of choice, and hopefully 4.10.x will tidy up bugs and a few feature-regressions, but it does seem to be a backward step overall. Which is a shame.

*Yes, yes, I know *anything* could be an improvement on 4.0...

Distro you're using, FLHerne? Because I think I've only had one crash for 4.10 and what QML plasmoids are you having problems with?? Screenlocker is working just fine over here on Arch x86_64, power management is working fine except on systemd systems and thats due to a bug that is getting fixed in 4.10.1 (patch already committed to master & 4.10 branch)

[Heidi572]

I'm using RC2 currently and it is already running great.

[funkSTAR]

there've been seemingly idiotic regressions in some areas, especially the QML-rewritten plasmoids...why bother releasing your remade versions if they have (literally) less than half the features in some cases, and break almost every use-case I could actually thing of? The new screenlocking feature doesn't actually lock the screen properly, the power-management doesn't work, plasma-desktop crashes occasionally (never in 4.8/9).

The idiotic forced use of QML is caused by Qts directions. Qt was meant to be Nokias way ahead. This impacts Qt5 and thus KDEs future. Even now. The Qt people are pushing QML, because they have no other choice. KDE have to obey Qt. So yeah expect more shit like this.

KDE is failing anyway. 4.10 had virtual no impact on the userbase at Arch. Like 1%. And Linus is back on the most extendable DE. Sorry KDE Now go die.

[TheBlackCat]

The idiotic forced use of QML is caused by Qts directions. Qt was meant to be Nokias way ahead. This impacts Qt5 and thus KDEs future. Even now. The Qt people are pushing QML, because they have no other choice. KDE have to obey Qt. So yeah expect more shit like this.

A blatant lie and you know it. Qt has absolutely no control whatsoever over KDE. KDE devs are using QML because it provides them advantages.

[TemplarGR]

A blatant lie and you know it. Qt has absolutely no control whatsoever over KDE. KDE devs are using QML because it provides them advantages.

Nope this is no lie... KDE was, is, and will always be a tech demo for Qt... KDE devs always seem to want to use and demonstrate each new feature Qt develops, instead of focusing on improving their existing software which is full of bugs and other problems...

[JS987]

A blatant lie and you know it. Qt has absolutely no control whatsoever over KDE. KDE devs are using QML because it provides them advantages.

KDE devs are forced to use QML because development of Widgets is stopped. Qt5 supports Widgets only because of backward compatibility.

[JS987]

...QML will help KDE devs to make KDE more bloated. KDE will be have to rewritten using QML because Qt6 won't probably support Widgets.