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    Quote Originally Posted by sabriah View Post
    As I get it, Qwidget has a richer feature set than QtQuick (using QML) while both provide nearly the same functionality: http://arstechnica.com/information-t...es-with-qt-47/

    Qwidget was the original set and therefore a very large part of KDE is using that. QML was later gaining ground and has effectively replaced QWidget as the default class. Rewriting anything Qwidget into QML is a non-trivial task.

    I'm not sure if all is all that bad in the long run, if only maintenance of QWidget can be kept. From the arstechnica link:



    FWIW, also former Gnome-lover Canonical is in the same boat since two years, once they voluntarily jumped onto the Qt boat (http://qt-project.org/forums/viewthread/3214):



    That should mean something for the long run.

    From that perspective alone, the QWidget class is deprecated, not KDE dying.
    Youre apparently new on the forums Meet FunkSTAR, he's an anti-kde, anti-Qt troll that will refute any argument you give with the most vitriol and venom that he can muster at that moment in time. Recommendation? Ignore list

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ericg View Post
    Youre apparently new on the forums Meet FunkSTAR, he's an anti-kde, anti-Qt troll that will refute any argument you give with the most vitriol and venom that he can muster at that moment in time. Recommendation? Ignore list
    I don't recall reading his posts before, but I took it as he was defending KDE's future, even if in an unorthodox manner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ericg View Post
    Honestly hate to give you this response, cuz I think its a but I dont know what else to do....
    Well, it's a fair response .
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    1) File bug reports
    I've already made a couple.

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    2) Test it on a system other than Debian/Ubuntu based before you really make a judgement.
    Sounds reasonable, but I'd have to install another distro and then configure it equivalently, and I don't really have the time to do that just now. So I made my judgement on the basis of "does it work here, now, with my settings", which is a clear no...
    With regards to your other points; I know my setup doesn't necessarily lend itself to total stability, but I've had very few library version or other problems before, over several KDE 4.x versions on this install. I've used every single 4.x.x release from 4.0 onwards, this is the only one so far where I've experienced serious new bugs/regressions in most areas. I'm not saying that none of the trouble is caused by my distro, but I highly doubt that's the only cause.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ericg View Post
    I have had literally NONE of the problems you're describing, though I dont use the comic strip (do use the weather though, no problems) so its got to be something specific to your combination of software (/software versions)
    Well, I've been in that position when others were moaning about KDE bugs, several times. There seem to be lots of installation/config/distro-related bugs...

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    Now some people are taking funky seriously, and Digia is blackmailing KDE into rewriting several million lines of code in QML :rofl:.

    QML is being used for desktop widgets, because it's a convenient way to do that, that's it. Nobody is going to rewrite all of KDE in QML, FFS, just stop believing random rubbish on the internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pingufunkybeat View Post
    Now some people are taking funky seriously, and Digia is blackmailing KDE into rewriting several million lines of code in QML :rofl:.

    QML is being used for desktop widgets, because it's a convenient way to do that, that's it. Nobody is going to rewrite all of KDE in QML, FFS, just stop believing random rubbish on the internet.
    Nobody believed it would be a sane idea to rewrite anything.

    Still, I hadn't realized he had been toking with Lawrence: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye3ecDYxOkg

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