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    Default Wayland's Weston Now Handles Full-Screen X Windows

    Phoronix: Wayland's Weston Now Handles Full-Screen X Windows

    In conjunction with XWayland, Wayland's Weston reference compositor can now handle full-screen X windows...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTMwMDE

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    Waiting for Wayland's adoption has become a very sour experience. Just got a bitter taste in my mouth after reading this support won't be there officially until perhaps September. @_@ Crikey.

    Still, I'm sure its arrival will be as sweet as anything we could have aside from widespread support from major software developers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scionicspectre View Post
    Waiting for Wayland's adoption has become a very sour experience. Just got a bitter taste in my mouth after reading this support won't be there officially until perhaps September. @_@ Crikey.

    Still, I'm sure its arrival will be as sweet as anything we could have aside from widespread support from major software developers.
    It's mostly because they're slow to develop it, for a project that is an order of magnitude smaller and simpler than X like 5 years of development is a lot. In 2008 there was one dev then there were more and it still doesn't support the most basic stuff you need on a desktop, like subsurface stuff (for plug-ins etc).

    By trying to be (almost) perfect they're taking too much time which is a danger for them, at Canonical some assholes apparently are already planning to use their own stuff instead of Wayland.

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    It is pathetic that Wayland takes so long to reach maturity since X is probably the only remaining HORRIBLE part of modern desktop Linux.

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    Quote Originally Posted by varikonniemi View Post
    It is pathetic that Wayland takes so long to reach maturity since X is probably the only remaining HORRIBLE part of modern desktop Linux.
    I don't think they have a huge team in order to pull something like this fast. X i think has more people.


    And yes i am inpatient too and want it NOW. If i remember correctly there aren't much that need to be merged in order to have a usable desktop. (minus apps)

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    I won't be using it on my desktop pc untill nvidia driver supports KMS anyway. Which I'm afraid will be never.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 89c51 View Post
    I don't think they have a huge team in order to pull something like this fast. X i think has more people.
    Almost any project has more people. There is a huge shortage of developers in the Linux desktop space, despite hypothetical claims of FOSS allowing millions of eyeballs and hands. Microsoft has a test team for one small part of Windows that swamps the size of the developer pools for X/Wayland/GTK/GNOME combined. Turns out most people want to get paid for their hard work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by varikonniemi View Post
    It is pathetic that Wayland takes so long to reach maturity since X is probably the only remaining HORRIBLE part of modern desktop Linux.
    dont make me laugh. pulseaudio has latency issues so that you have to use a different mixer if you want low latency. i hope this is not an inherent flaw, cause if it is lennard should be hung from a lamppost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garegin View Post
    dont make me laugh. pulseaudio has latency issues so that you have to use a different mixer if you want low latency. i hope this is not an inherent flaw, cause if it is lennard should be hung from a lamppost.
    Halfway: with pulseaudio, latency is tied directly to cpu usage, but there's an old and complicated api to ask for better latency. No guarantees that you'll get it, though.
    Source: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Soft...actencyControl
    Of course, the OSS4 documentation points out that at least for video you only need ~30-40 millisecond latencies; the OSS4 developers state that they consider these normal latencies and claim that for single-digit latencies you need special hardware...Source:http://manuals.opensound.com/develop...io_timing.html

    @JS987: I prefer X to wayland, but if you're bashing wayland, present some evidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by varikonniemi View Post
    It is pathetic that Wayland takes so long to reach maturity since X is probably the only remaining HORRIBLE part of modern desktop Linux.
    Wayland should never be adopted as it is broken by design. It will just slow down applications compared to X without compositing.

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