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Don't worry, the crazy ones are usually more vocal (and it shows through in their simple, abrasive speech). There are many Linux consumers that are eager to pay for quality titles, and hopefully the numbers will grow as a result of more games being published. I doubt game developers are going to care much about a few people on a forum. It's real statics from things like Humble Bundle that will ultimately sway them.Originally Posted by iniside
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you really mix up the people because the people who want better drivers are the people who are willing to pay for the games.
the Pirates do not need better linux driver because they install a pirated windows version to play the pirated games.
but hey its so much easier to lie and claim that people who want better driver also pirate the game to support better open-source drivers.
or on more simple words that even people like you can understand it: go fuck yourself!
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The problem is not the $5 USD for the game, I've paid $250 USD for my Filco mechanical keyboard, what makes you think I won't pay $5 for a game? I'm not cheapass.
The problem is some third world countries won't even allow citizens to have credit cards that easily (or at all). Let alone "international" credit cards...
So going the legal way (Steam) is not even an option, piracy is the only choice in this case.
Not everyone lives in USA or Europe where you can get a credit card for $50-100 in your account, countries have different policies and requirements on the CC thing. It's easier to get in some countries and impossible in others.
Paypal also doesn't work in many third world countries... So what other choices we have?
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maybe the rude style is the only one who defence freedom?
or on other words: go fuck yourself!
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Trying to build your own market rather than relying on Microsoft's tends to be a serious thing ;-)
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You said the magic phrase: "Quality titles"
I have pirated so many games and software that it is simply impossible to count. Games from each generation of consoles, Pc games, software of every type, you name it, i have pirated it. But if you visit my place and have a look around, you will find out that most of my collection is genuine... Why?
Because i learned long ago that the press, especially gaming-oriented, is nothing more than PR agents for the corporations. They lie about everything, they hide important facts or at least downplay them, they promote expensive garbage because the companies pay their bills.
There is absolutely no way of knowing in advance if a game is good or not. You first have to part with your money. There is an inherent risk when bying a video game, that the game will suck and even if you resell it you will have lost at least some amount of money...
Sure there are demos, but most of the time do not show the whole picture.
The fair thing would be a try before you buy model, not with a demo, but the WHOLE GAME for 24 hours. The FULL version. Let the client appraise the quality of game and make his choice if he wants to support you or not. Let him judge if the price you ask is fair or not.
Instead of providing us the customers a fair model they always try to exploit us, and get more money for less investment on their part. Of course, that is what corporations do, but us as customers should push back and demand a better deal, not agreeing with them...
The truth about the gaming industry today is that most games are far too expensive for what they are worth. People argue that the cost of producing a game is up, but this is simply a lie. Sure we have come a long way since pong and pac man, but the tools of the trade have become much better too plus the market has vastly grown since then. Most games reuse engines, textures, sounds etc. The modern tools provide a more rapid process of game design and there are far more trained developers now that existed then. The main reason games look far more realistic now is not because companies spent more, but because of Moore's Law...
Since companies won't give us a fair model, we have to provide it ourselves. And what is the name of it? PIRACY! If you notice each scene release txt or nfo, you will always see at the end the crackers saying " Support quality software, if you liked this game, BUY IT". And that is my motto too.
I used to download each game released. 90% percent of them i deleted in 5-10 minutes of testing them. Another 5% i played for a couple of hours, and then deleted them too. The 5% i found worthy of my attention, i went out and bought it. But only after having completed it.
Why? Because it is to my best interest that game developers who provide quality work and respect their customer should survive and have a healthy profit in order to provide me with more of their stuff. On the other hand, i couldn't care less if companies who disrespect their customers go bankrupt... For example releasing the same game (COD) so many years in the row, with mostly the same engine, textures, and music, with a sub par single player experience and only a few multiplayer maps, while taking away features their customers wanted, each time for 60$, is a disrespect to their fanbase. They have made so much money and they still won't provide value for it. This kind of situation needs to go, and will go eventually. I would pirate COD but i simply cannot play it anymore, it is that BAD... On the other hand, Fallout New Vegas, even with the bugs, was an effort full of love for us fans of the original Fallout. It was a good game, with nice humour and attention to detail. It was obvious a lot of love went into it, just not enough QA... But i bought it without a second thought. And it was far cheaper than COD too...
So, us pirates are not that bad, and most of us certainly pay for the software we enjoy. I agree that those cheap pirates who never buy anything deserve no respect, but they are a minority for sure.
And Linux will not have more Piracy or less. Piracy is not an issue of the OS. It has nothing to do with it. And those who use Linux are not cheap or only free users. We use Linux because we love freedom sure, but not EVERYTHING needs to be free software. When the time comes, we will pay for our games in the same manner windows gamers pay.
It is just that we need QUALITY TITLES. We won't pay for anything less.
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Oh Q...
What freedom are you referring to?
The freedom to exploit anonymity on the net, being offensive as this?
I bet you'd never dare say that face to face.
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I'm really hoping these jackasses are just a vocal minority. I hope that not so many Linux users are willing to kill their nascent gaming market because they feel entitled to a 3 dollar game.
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OMG SUCH LULZ HERE
look at a bunch of faggets in their knees ready to suck that neckbearded double chinned fat cunts cock.
Valve is a fucking cut throat corporation that only wants to MAKE MONEY.
they will probably steal ubuntu, LIKE GOOGLE DID WITH CHROME OS, to release their own distro with steam box.
-> This you faggets: " Oh Valve you are so good and kind to release 14 YEAR OLD TITLES (hl1 lulz) AND FUCKING 9 and 6 year OLD TITLES THAT NO ONE IN THE PC/MAC ECOSYSTEM WOULD PAY TO HAVE, PLEASE VALVE LET ME PURCHASE YOUR OLD GAY ASS GAMES FOR 10€ OR WHATEVER BECAUSE I'm A FAGGET"
fuck valve and fuck you.
valve is only releasing steam for linux so they can make a quick buck and then steal ubuntu and make their own steambox and they ARE ONLY DOING THAT BECAUSE M$ WITH WINDOWS8 THREATENS TO EAT A BIT OF THEIR PROFITS.
Valve is just a piece of shit as is google/microsoft/apple
and again faggets why wasn't anyone adressed the elephant in the room (and I don't mean gabe newell)
HOW THE FUCK DOES A KID IN BRAZIL / INDIA / FUCKING TIBET buy a steam game?
tell me HOW FAGGETS
valve even asks a social security number when americans buy games in steam WHAT A FUCKING JOKE
I'd rather GO BACK TO WINDOWS than give my personal information to some shady ass american corporation
first thing I did with ubuntu was removing all LENSES, I AINT A FAGGET if amazon thinks they can put me in their database they can gag on my cock.
if you accept proprietary drivers, and proprietary steam, and proprietary adobe flash, and credit cards and all that shit
WTF U DOING ON LINUX? you are one steap away from windows faggets
no me tho.
the only proprietary software I accept is PIRATED software, that is best software IMO, since pirates need love and need to make a living too.
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