Valve Celebrates Steam For Linux

[Kano]

You seem to be very stupid. Maybe 80% of all Linux games on Steam have been in a Humble Bundle before, that means they have been available without DRM for a while. Many other games are only funny when you play em online in a team like Killing Floor, partly Serious Sam 3 and CS (S). I don't get why you don't want to pay for the extra features that Steam provides. It is certainly not impossible to replace the steam libs by stubs but you don't get the same experience - right now many games are not so expensive anyway. I personally have got no interest in most former HIB games. But if somebody wants to send me a gift of some FPS i would not say no I have got already Killing Floor, Serious Sam 3 - and bought several years ago: Half-Life and Counter Strike (1.6).

[asdx]

You seem to be very stupid. Maybe 80% of all Linux games on Steam have been in a Humble Bundle before, that means they have been available without DRM for a while. Many other games are only funny when you play em online in a team like Killing Floor, partly Serious Sam 3 and CS (S). I don't get why you don't want to pay for the extra features that Steam provides. It is certainly not impossible to replace the steam libs by stubs but you don't get the same experience - right now many games are not so expensive anyway. I personally have got no interest in most former HIB games. But if somebody wants to send me a gift of some FPS i would not say no I have got already Killing Floor, Serious Sam 3 - and bought several years ago: Half-Life and Counter Strike (1.6).

Fuck you, you are the stupid one.

It's good to let the pirates know about Steam anyway, I want to see most games being available on TPB anyway.

Fuck you if you don't like TPB.

[peppercats]

Bought a ton of games, have only had time to play Trine 2 and CK2 so far.
After reading this thread, maybe Ballmer was right about Linux users just not wanting to pay. Hope this kind of attitude doesn't make Valve rethink their decision about their new choice of gaming platform based on RMS zealots.

[Luke_Wolf]

Bought a ton of games, have only had time to play Trine 2 and CK2 so far.
After reading this thread, maybe Ballmer was right about Linux users just not wanting to pay. Hope this kind of attitude doesn't make Valve rethink their decision about their new choice of gaming platform based on RMS zealots.

Well there are pirates on all platforms, of all ideologies. That said I would say asdx and pallidus are in the minority even here on this issue, even among people who oppose DRM, and personally I'm finding what they're saying outright pathetic.

[iniside]

All I can Say. After reading this thread if I was game developer, I wouldn't develop any serious game for Linux.

Linux users population is about 1% on desktop, and they want to pirate my games. What a waste of time it would be for developing game for them...

Even then, they want from me to utilize partially working drivers, that at best can be used for some 10 years old games.

Guys. Please tell me you are not serious.

[BO$$]

necro-lover is right, radeon is the best AMD driver and everyone knows that, it's much better than the piece of shit catalyst/fglrx blob. And not just for FOSS reasons, but because I love the "out of the box" experience I get with radeon.

I also love the peace of mind I get by knowing my driver is in the kernel, and that I'm using the FOSS stack, rather than a shitty blob module that replaces 90% of the FOSS stack.

Valve should be supporting and pushing companies like AMD to improve their open source driver. Fuck them for chosing the catalyst/fglrx/blob way.

The proprietary drivers are faster as of right now. That is the reason people should choose them when using Steam. Valve doesn't have anything against open source drivers, just that they are not as good. What do you want them to do? Wait 10 years until they get on par and then release Steam?

Why is it sick? Because I want to play the games without DRM?

You fucking asshole. No you're not a lowlife thief, noooo, you care about DRM. That is the reason why you steal. The DRM. And we're supposed to believe that. Fucking twat.

[DDF420]

There's actually a few, Amnesia and a few others.

But I think those were available before Steam.

Take a look here: https://thepiratebay.se/torrent/7356...escent_-_Linux

I wonder if Steam Linux games will start appearing in torrent sites soon.

So you want pirated games because you want DRM free games. Yet you wont buy a copy of DRM free dark decent.You dont have to get it through steam therefore no steamworks.
Steam lets you know in either the game details or system requirements what 3rd party DRM will be installed. Valve encourages mods through the Sourcemod community and give you free dedicated servers to download.

There are also numerous windows games that have DRM in retail form, but do not have said DRM on the Steam version. There are also games that once had DRM, but it has been removed from the game entirely when it was offered on steam.


The stupid it burns

[asdx]

The proprietary drivers are faster as of right now. That is the reason people should choose them when using Steam. Valve doesn't have anything against open source drivers, just that they are not as good. What do you want them to do? Wait 10 years until they get on par and then release Steam?



You fucking asshole. No you're not a lowlife thief, noooo, you care about DRM. That is the reason why you steal. The DRM. And we're supposed to believe that. Fucking twat.

So now wanting to do what I want with the data I pay for is stealing? Fuck you, you are the asshole and low-life scumbag.

I will make sure I rip all the games and put them in TPB.

Go fuck yourself.

[boltronics]

As has been pointed out previously, there are actually only one or two very vocal people here that are against Valve and are pro "piracy" (I prefer the term copyright infringement). I very much doubt this is indicative of the majority of GNU/Linux users.

I don't like that people are associating the views of these people with Stallman - very erroneously. Stallman wouldn't use proprietary software in the first place, so would never advocate infringing the copyright of these games. I personally agree with Stallman's views and apply many of them regularly (such as using the free software driver stacks where I can), but have not gone so far as to rid my systems of proprietary games - where I do try to honor the license agreements by paying for said games. Games are my weakness.

Many of the Steam games do indeed work with free software drivers - all the games I've tried in fact (and I have tried quite a few). Even many Windows games under Wine using the free software drivers work fine.

On another note, I wish Steam provided Wine integration for Windows games on GNU/Linux. There are many Windows AAA games that work perfectly under recent Wine releases and have no GNU/Linux ports. If Valve implemented this as some kind of unsupported beta option, many people could switch away from Windows right away. As it stands however, many people find Wine too much of a challenge to bother with, and most Steam users already have a collection of Windows-only games they would otherwise need to forfeit to make the transition - which will be a blocker for many people.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Valve team up with CodeWeavers in the near future, or start contributing patches to Wine themselves.

[smitty3268]

So now wanting to do what I want with the data I pay for is stealing?

Oh, so you plan on paying for the game before you download the crack from TPB? That's different, and I think almost everyone on here would support you then.

No, of course not - you just want a free game and use DRM as an excuse. Either pay for the game, or don't play it. Don't try to pretend like you are taking some kind of moral stand by ripping them off - a moral stand would be saying, I don't want to support them so I refuse to play their game.