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    Default MonoDevelop vs. Xamarin Studio IDEs

    Phoronix: MonoDevelop vs. Xamarin Studio IDEs

    In writing yesterday about Xamarin 2.0 it wasn't clear the relation between the new Xamarin Studio integrated development environment and MonoDevelop IDE that Xamarin had been pushing up to this point for Mono development. Now there's some clarification out of the Cambridge company...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTMwNzk

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    Thumbs down Treason

    Yeah this is the same shit hitting Qt. Moving on to new markets and forgetting about the roots. The white collar term is "diversification". The right term for people caring about Linux: treason..

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    Quote Originally Posted by funkSTAR View Post
    Yeah this is the same shit hitting Qt. Moving on to new markets and forgetting about the roots. The white collar term is "diversification". The right term for people caring about Linux: treason..
    This is the father of the GNOME project. The same guy who tried to make Mono a hard dependency of the Linux desktop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pingufunkybeat View Post
    This is the father of the GNOME project. The same guy who tried to make Mono a hard dependency of the Linux desktop.
    Yeah. Just like the KDE founder Matthias Ettrich is playing foul games at Nokia. That dude was part of the gang leaving out KDE for transforming Qt into a phone toolkit. Sad stories... The best way ahead is to say NO to shit like Qt an Mono/Xamarin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by funkSTAR View Post
    Yeah. Just like the KDE founder Matthias Ettrich is playing foul games at Nokia. That dude was part of the gang leaving out KDE for transforming Qt into a phone toolkit.
    This gave us a completely LGPL phone/tablet interface, the first of its kind. Now you can have a completely GPL/LGPL OS powering your tablet.

    It's unfair to compare this to a closed-source C# IDE for Windows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pingufunkybeat View Post
    This gave us a completely LGPL phone/tablet interface, the first of its kind. Now you can have a completely GPL/LGPL OS powering your tablet.

    It's unfair to compare this to a closed-source C# IDE for Windows.
    So how much do you think your own (WRONG) biased evaluation of "value" counts? It is worth nothing. The fact that some people prefer Mono/Xamarin over Qt proves you wrong anyway. Matthias and Miguel went down the same drain.

    Oh yeah BTW can you confirm that QT Commercial SDK does not offer any advantages over the gratis editions? I guess you are ready to bet on it. Unless of course we all agree to Qt making the same shit as Mono.

    Matthias=Miguel
    Qt=Mono
    Last edited by funkSTAR; 02-21-2013 at 09:51 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by funkSTAR View Post
    Yeah this is the same shit hitting Qt. Moving on to new markets and forgetting about the roots. The white collar term is "diversification". The right term for people caring about Linux: treason..
    What are you upset about? Xamarin Studio doesn't run on Linux and the new MonoDevelop will focus on Win/Mac...

    Why don't you use one of the way better IDEs that take Linux much more seriously: IntelliJ, Eclipse, etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanLamb View Post
    Why don't you use one of the way better IDEs that take Linux much more seriously: IntelliJ, Eclipse, etc
    I was a Java developer until my peers tried to persuade me that Eclipse was a good IDE, at which point I realised they were all insane and perhaps I had wasted my time on my Java-based degree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanLamb View Post
    What are you upset about? Xamarin Studio doesn't run on Linux and the new MonoDevelop will focus on Win/Mac...

    Why don't you use one of the way better IDEs that take Linux much more seriously: IntelliJ, Eclipse, etc
    Because Xamarin Studio is MonoDevelop, at least as coding is concerned: is Gtk# based, it uses the same refactoring core (mainly: NRefactor), the same solution loader, the same dialogs for adding references, the same code for docking UI, etc. It is using also the very same control to display code and the same solution browser.

    The single main change will be that MonoDevelop will not be the main priority. But people will still update the MonoDevelop Git and will benefit from a good IDE.

    At last: better is a qualitative term, not a something that can be measured directly. Is Java easier to code for an OpenGL program, or to write Linq like coding? I tried JOGL and is an insanity compared with OpenTK. Also, missing the var keyword, is another small anoyance, the idea that you cannot add 2 classes in the same file, or to create a lambda, you create a full "poor man's closure", meaning an anonnymous class, is really annoying. At last: if Java is this good for Linux, if Mono offers basically the same runtime, I think is great that Linux to have them both. If you can do most things in Python. it doesn't mean that Ruby or Perl should not exist. Or if C can do whatever C++ does, to remove C++ and Vala, isn't it so?

    Quote Originally Posted by brosis View Post
    ECMA is microsoft bitch. Point me at IEEE or ISO please.
    http://www.ecma-international.org/pu...s/Ecma-262.htm

    Don't forget that ECMAScript is ECMA. Meaning JavaScript. So the scripting that you run to use to criticize Mono uses the same standard body that Mono. Hopefully you will be true to your word and don't use ECMA anymore (or JS in your browser), it belongs to Microsoft, isn't it so?
    Last edited by ciplogic; 02-26-2013 at 03:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ciplogic View Post
    http://www.ecma-international.org/pu...s/Ecma-262.htm

    Don't forget that ECMAScript is ECMA. Meaning JavaScript. So the scripting that you run to use to criticize Mono uses the same standard body that Mono. Hopefully you will be true to your word and don't use ECMA anymore (or JS in your browser), it belongs to Microsoft, isn't it so?
    Your favorite Mono just officially gave crap about its roots in an epic futile attempt of dropping useless attack on mentally aware Linux community, focusing its lying energy rays of darkness on where it can get money from AND damage microsoft enemies as well. That being Android and Mac. Well, congratulations!

    Maybe sometime you will follow the example and stop lying too?

    And you point me to ECMA when I asked about IEEE/ISO?
    Wake me up, when you start distinguishing between words "Javascript" and "ECMAScript", because I was and am using Netscape's Javascript, kay?

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