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    Quote Originally Posted by Pawlerson View Post
    Exactly. It's just a matter of being smart and use cross platform tools or being dumb and use windoeze tools.
    ???

    Used them?

    They are good. Very good. Nothing to beat them. DX/Win-specific API's wont go away shortly nor tooling around them. Its not about NOT using window's specific libs/tools but about how much you can earn by also using libs/tooling supporting other platforms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pawlerson View Post
    Exactly. It's just a matter of being smart and use cross platform tools or being dumb and use windoeze tools.
    Well it doesn't help every tutorial and example on the web is DX centered (yes I know there are a few *old* openGL ones).

    I programmed in assembly because single core low IPC/frequency processors needed applications to be as speedy as possible back then, GUI programming sucked because you relied on slow API's that could destroy any benefit from LLP. Now you can program in whatever filthy abstract scripting lang and still have a decent performing app/game because GPU's (and processors) are insane now. Abstracting layers like SDL maybe too slow 10 years ago but now, there is absolutely no excuse to not abstract game/program layers to be cross platform except because M$ paid them to do so... or they're lazy... or they don't care about cross platform... or they think Linux is commie crap... oh well, maybe there is an excuse or two,but that's about what they are is excuses.

    Quote Originally Posted by przemoli View Post
    ???

    Used them?

    They are good. Very good. Nothing to beat them. DX/Win-specific API's wont go away shortly nor tooling around them. Its not about NOT using window's specific libs/tools but about how much you can earn by also using libs/tooling supporting other platforms.
    Yes, yes I have. The Win32 api had to be one of the most performance robbing hack jobs I have ever used. To it's credit, it was fairly standard and results were consistent (if not because most of the irrational behavior had been discovered and worked around). I was always trying to find ways to speed up Windows apps, especially GUI ones. The sad thing is no matter how awesome of a jump table window handler loop you made, no matter how quick hashed for clicks and closes, the best loops barely did crap compared to the msecs lost by the Win api... Yeah all gui's suck but still I won't praise that crap.



    Just so you know.. A hyper visor with running on a processor that launches apps that have full control of the workhorse processor and the workhorse video card is by far the best way to approach gaming and critical applications. In case you think I'm defending X or quartz or whatever I think they are all pretty bad.
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    Actually it seems these are still stats for Febuary 2013 and not for March. At least it says "Febuary 2013" on the HW-survey page
    see: http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey

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    Quote Originally Posted by przemoli View Post
    ???

    Used them?

    They are good. Very good. Nothing to beat them. DX/Win-specific API's wont go away shortly nor tooling around them. Its not about NOT using window's specific libs/tools but about how much you can earn by also using libs/tooling supporting other platforms.
    They're crap and Valve has already proven this. Linux is faster with OpenGL. And no, I won't ever use windoze APIs.

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    Asteroid on Vectrex. First PC was a 386SX-33 with 8MB RAM and 110MB hard disc. Slow to get started on the PC's I was, but never looked back.

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    Well, I just bought CS:GO. I didn't like CS:S too much, but GO feels quite OK. Though the console-ish configuration options and GUI are a bit disappointing. Hoping for a Linux port soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pallidus View Post
    linux gamers are a sad pathetic bunch


    throw them a 10 year

    HELL 10??

    like 14 year old title

    CSTRIKE ANYONE?

    throw them a 14 year old title and they will suck dick in bus stops just so they can buy it.



    you all make me sick



    get me black ops 2, then


    THEN

    I will consider
    http://www.geek.com/articles/games/i...m-box-2013034/

    Now kindly shut the fuck up with your inane blathering.

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    you shut the fuck up you dickless piece of shit

    you really think all steam box games will be released for linux????? lololol


    come back in years time and tell me how that went

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pallidus View Post
    you shut the fuck up you dickless piece of shit

    you really think all steam box games will be released for linux????? lololol


    come back in years time and tell me how that went
    I don't imagine anything will come in a year's time. Two? That's another story. You asked for CoD on Linux and I gave you the best news available to me. If IW is interested in the SteamBox - which will be Linux based - I'd say that looks good for CoD unless they've gotten into lackluster flash games recently and nobody told me.

    If you don't like that, then go fuck your mother some more when the dog is done with her.
    (Do you *really* want to get into a Tourette's insult fight? Good god boy, I'll melt your computer. LOL)

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    android is also linux based and tell me how many android games are available for linux...


    ahahaha you sick psycho faggot, you can tell a lot when some sick fuck always resorts to sick shit ( beastiality etc ) to come up with insults.


    I bet your hard drive is filled with all sorts of illegal pornography, someone get the fbi on this faggot's ass before he rapes more animals

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