So where is the announcement that they won't use Debian anymore, because they clearly lack a leader and are of no use for Ubuntu anymore?Canonical could have helped linux but since linux was so against it they will have to leave them behind if they want to succeed. And that is what they are doing. They used linux while linux was on a relatively good path but since now it all goes to hell with all these clueless community leaders what do you want them to do?
I neither can see an announcement that they write a kernel for their "true new operating system", it seems to me that they still rely on the effort taken by the community.we may finally see a true new operating system named Ubuntu
Again, if Debian goes into oblivion Ubuntu will inevitably follow them. Just because they can't handle the workload for themselves, they are relying on this work, done by the community.Ubuntu is going up and you will inevitably go down into oblivion.