I think this is what may eventually kill Ubuntu. Moving further away from the other Linux distributions, they receive less upstream development on core components. They're quickly moving from collaborators to competitors.
Ubuntu is far from the cutting edge Debian derivative I liked in 8.04 LTS. Nowadays I use Debian Sid and have more or less alienated Ubuntu as a desktop OS.
I've posted on Mark's site but that stupid spam plug-in 'Akismet' blocks my gmail account and there seems no way to remove your email address from their lists. Wordpress application is so lame at times.
Originally Posted by Ibidem;317231Also, while I disagree with the "buttons on the left" decision ([URL="http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1430585&page=39&p=9034150#post903 4150"
my comment in the poll during Lucid development[/URL]), I am aware that there was a technical reason. IIRC, it was to avoid putting them near the various applets and messages.
In retrospect it was just one of many preparations for Unity. And that's why they were so adamant about it. The whole buttons-on-the-left issue was important because it clearly denoted the watershed between Ubuntu as a philosophy and Ubuntu as a recognized brand. It was precisely the point where Canonical stopped listening to their userbase and adopted typical corporate "we know what you need better then you" bullshit.
Canonical is not contributing upstream. They're trying to get support for their project(which BTW undermines the efforts for a new standard display server).
And other projects shouldn't take any patch in. It adds complexity and maintenance. Imagine having to support half a dozen display servers.
Example: If a create a new type of executable incompatible with Linux. Should the Linux kernel just take my patch to support my executable?
If the user share of your executable outnumbers other executables combined then yes, by all means.
Since I use Ubuntu with mostly the Plasma desktop I would consider myself part of the Ubuntu community. I'm fairly new to linux (less than a year using linux) and I don't know how to code or understand a lot of these techical terms you guys use but I think i have a basic understanding of what Mark is saying. I think he wants to be like Apple, Windows and Android (regarding wealth), feels the goal is achieveable and will say/do anything to justify it and color it as politcally correct (politcally here means as in relation to the other distros).
Oh well. There are other distros, if he makes a bad decision/s then we will abandon his distro right?
Sailfish is targetting Wayland and that is their future linux competition on phones and tablets right?
Valve is going with X and probably open to Wayland and that is their future desktop/gaming platform competition right?
Opensuse is their enterprise competition and they are still same old same old right?
So what are we getting next from Valve? Valve Debian or something like that?
1. Your choice.
2. Too late for that, sorry
3. X, Wayland and Mir but I'd rather say just Mir since they target one platform - Ubuntu. Everything else is just an extra.
4. openSUSE is buggy as hell, no idea about SLE.
5. SteamBox which is Valve Ubuntu most likely.
"What Iím really interested in is this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to create a free and open platform that is THE LEADER across both consumer and enterprise computing."
FLOSS needs THE FUHRER!
Sad but true. Bazaar (as philosophy) is good at creating flexible software with a lot of cool features, cathedral leads to less bugs and faster development. To put it in simple terms:
Community writes desktop software as it likes
Companies write desktop software so it *works*
Take Jabber+Jingle for example:
You can easily play chess via Jabber (psi-plus)
You can easily join conferences via Jabber
You can even make your own Jabber server
And if you want to call behind NAT Ė youíre screwed