fear uncertainty and doubt
Originally Posted by Kite
I love Mark Shuttleworth's statement "A fantastic piece of engineering" in contrast to Daniel Stone's comment on Mir;
...From google+; https://plus.google.com/100409717163...ts/jDq6BAgdpkG (just past halfway down the page/comments).
Originally Posted by Daniel Stone
Hmmm... Who has done more work on the linux graphical stack and is far more knowledgable ~ Mark Shuttlework (or any Mir developer) vs. Daniel Stone (and the rest of the developers experienced in these areas)?
funny stuff. Marketers / snake-oil salesmen vs. experienced developers.
People who use whateverBUNTU should not post in this thread. Tired of your retarded nonsense.
Originally Posted by erendorn
Maybe you mean the LLVM compiler inside closed source graphics drivers, with back-ends that are not compatible with Linux-LLVM and they are hard to export to Gallium-LLVM drivers, wile the optimization libraries are not compatible at all and you will never found them on open source graphics drivers. Anyway if you don't want only GPL, then install Windows again and its the same.
Simply put, I am yet to see a single reason why Mir should be preferred over Wayland. While there are plenty of reasons the other way round (mature codebase, experienced developers, development transparency, universal acceptability).
As for the license, I recall reading that GPL on the display server could actually be very harmful. For one, if they were to release "libmir" under GPL as well, it would exclude all the proprietary software from using it. So no games could use it directly etc. Though IIRC Mir is dual-licensed under LGPL, so it should be fine in that regard. Still, the license alone, especially given the CLA, is not going to matter a whole lot in this case.
Listen Ubuntu folks
I don't *want* a closed graphical UI. I say 'closed' because Ubuntu will GLADLY make sure the binary blobs are front and centre, they do NOT care about Open source drivers, not for their tablets, phones etc. As for license MIT is just fine, even if I like the GPL there are cases where it hurts.
The Ubuntu generation don't understand WHY we are angry about Mir and about why Canonical is doing this. I hope this implodes and that Ubuntu gets shut out more and more.
Don't screw up Wayland, stop sabotaging what limited resources the community has with your for-profit mentality to screw others just to make a buck.
I'm sorry but I want to see Canonical fail. You do NOT pressure the community to do it your way, Red Hat controls many things in FLOSS because they gave so much back to the community, trust is built though collaboration, something Canonical doesn't get or understand.
Shuttleworth's defensive blogposts are on an increasing 'cadence'...
I value freedom. That is why I will not trust Canonical with (maybe) the second most important component of GNU/Linux on the desktop; the display server. I will though trust the experienced ex-X.org developers whom now work on Wayland. Mir will make everything more complicated for everyone.
Originally Posted by Libreman