Xfce 4.12 Desktop Release Ends Up Behind Schedule

[bwat47]

Ah, that could explain it as well. I'm using alsa down here as well. However, I don't believe that pulseaudio is a memory hog these days...

its not a memory hog, I was just explaining:

1. why i believe xubuntu is more use friendly than other xfce desktops i've tried

2. xubuntu isn't really as resource intensive as people are making it out to be

[Hamish Wilson]

No need to bash xubuntu, it is definitely the best out of the box XFCE out there. I especially like that by default they use a fork of xfce4-volumed that actually supports pulseaudio properly, they use ubuntu's volume indicator instead of xfce's mixer panel plugin which plays much nicer with pulseaudio, and uses pavucontrol as the mixer which is way better than xfce's mixer.

I generally use pnmixer and pavucontrol for my Xfce setups - I do have to agree that the default Xfce audio plugins are fairly terrible.

[Rexilion]

its not a memory hog, I was just explaining:

1. why i believe xubuntu is more use friendly than other xfce desktops i've tried

2. xubuntu isn't really as resource intensive as people are making it out to be

Yes, you can make XFCE relatively more memory hungry by applying a different configuration. However, this usually implies using components not part of the standard XFCE desktop. Things like gconf, pulseaudio, nm-applet etc etc. This has nothing to do with XFCE itself.

It also depends whether if you are running x86 or amd64. The difference is in the 20MB range.

Furthermore, to be honest I find XFCE to be pretty solid under Gentoo as well.

[Hamish Wilson]

Yes, you can make XFCE relatively more memory hungry by applying a different configuration. However, this usually implies using components not part of the standard XFCE desktop. Things like gconf, pulseaudio, nm-applet etc etc. This has nothing to do with XFCE itself.

Well, personally I would never want to go without most of those, but yes, they do increase the memory footprint of my Xfce setup.

Furthermore, to be honest I find XFCE to be pretty solid under Gentoo as well.

I think the complaint was about default configurations and not about the software itself (which should be pretty solid on whatever you set it up on).

[elanthis]

Too bad it wasn't ported to GTK3 already.

It was. I ported all of the core components a few years ago. XFCE devs wanted nothing to do with GTK+3. They're floating around somewhere still I'm sure, but now quite out of date.

[bwat47]

It was. I ported all of the core components a few years ago. XFCE devs wanted nothing to do with GTK+3. They're floating around somewhere still I'm sure, but now quite out of date.

I've seen a few posts on the XFCE dev mailing lists suggesting that it may start happening soon. No specific posts about intensions for porting to GTK3, but things like this:

http://mail.xfce.org/pipermail/xfce4...il/030249.html
http://mail.xfce.org/pipermail/xfce4...il/030252.html

Looks like they are porting the panel at least, which for me is one of the most important parts because it would mean I could finally use GTK3 indicators in xubuntu, which would mean the return of the messaging indicator

I don't think its all the XFCE devs that want nothing to do with it, just some of them. I think overall they realize it needs to be done eventually, progress is just slow because some of them don't want to bother with it.