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    Default MATE Desktop 1.6 Brings New Features To GNOME 2

    Phoronix: MATE Desktop 1.6 Brings New Features To GNOME 2

    The MATE fork of the GNOME 2.x Desktop has now been upped to version 1.6 with some new features for vintage Linux desktop users...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTM0MTQ

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    Quote Originally Posted by phoronix View Post
    Phoronix: MATE Desktop 1.6 Brings New Features To GNOME 2

    The MATE fork of the GNOME 2.x Desktop has now been upped to version 1.6 with some new features for vintage Linux desktop users...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTM0MTQ
    Looks as though MATE 1.6 will be merged with the FreeBSD ports tree soon too.
    https://github.com/mate-desktop/mate-panel/issues/85

    The greater GTK3 compatibility is a very big plus too, it's good to see that this project is developing nicely.

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    Good job MATE team, I might finally stop saying you are doom the second the switch away from X become generalized, since you finally progressing instead of just maintaining. =)

    I like MATE, but I had always seen the project has a dead end, so feel free to prove my original opinion wrong. =)

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    when Gnome3 gave issues with performance, stability and loss of features, and the gnome dev had made it nearly impossible to install Gnome2 on a modern distro (by making all the library names clash), and the lightweight window managers were not quite up to the job, Mate was there for me.

    I am very happy to see that they are making progress, deprecating old code and libraries, and adding features. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by ssam View Post
    when Gnome3 gave issues with performance, stability and loss of features, and the gnome dev had made it nearly impossible to install Gnome2 on a modern distro (by making all the library names clash), and the lightweight window managers were not quite up to the job, Mate was there for me.

    I am very happy to see that they are making progress, deprecating old code and libraries, and adding features. Thanks
    What do you mean? The library names do NOT clash. Only issue that you have in GNOME 2.x vs GNOME 3.x is that 2.x->3.x was done like any 2.x change, meaning: you cannot have two GNOME versions installed at the same time. It was never possible, also not possible going from 2.x to 3.x.

    But that has NOTHING to do with library names.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bkor View Post
    What do you mean? The library names do NOT clash. Only issue that you have in GNOME 2.x vs GNOME 3.x is that 2.x->3.x was done like any 2.x change, meaning: you cannot have two GNOME versions installed at the same time. It was never possible, also not possible going from 2.x to 3.x.

    But that has NOTHING to do with library names.
    It was an issue if your distribution moved onto GNOME 3 but you wanted to stick with GNOME 2. No doubt many packages would pull in GNOME 3 components.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bkor View Post
    What do you mean? The library names do NOT clash. Only issue that you have in GNOME 2.x vs GNOME 3.x is that 2.x->3.x was done like any 2.x change, meaning: you cannot have two GNOME versions installed at the same time. It was never possible, also not possible going from 2.x to 3.x.

    But that has NOTHING to do with library names.
    exactly.

    you cannot have Gnome2 and Gnome3 components installed on the same system at the same time (without a real mess). Its not hard to make Gnome2 and Gnome3 parallel installable, Mate managed just by changing the names. Just like its possible to have GTK2 and GTK3 installed at the same time, or gstreamer 0.10 and 1.0. I am fairly sure KDE3 and KDE4 could be installed together.

    If the Gnome devs had bumped the names, or libraries version, or however everyone else does it, then the distros would have been free to offer GNOME3 and keep GNOME2 alongside.

    whether the gnome devs made a concious effort to prevent this. or just never got around to making the parallel install work, is a difficult question. there is some discussion at https://lwn.net/Articles/466872/

    Imagine if it was decided that now BTRFS is in the kernel, ext4 would be removed. and a whole bunch of low level filesystem functions would have their api (but not name) changed, so it was nearly impossible to port ext4 into a new kernel. and the major distros went along with it. (I am a fan of BTRFS, but probably would not be if it had been introduced like that)

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