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    Quote Originally Posted by startzz View Post
    Yes, but it still makes no sense, because no real gamers cares about intel drivers or any sh1t like that, especially on linux, if you wanna play games, then at least buy a pc... [..]
    Whats the point of watching gay porn, if you are straight ? doing these comparisons are the same freakin thing, just in technological way... You better test how hard have you to hit wall with your head to die
    * Intel has a big share in the graphics market. And especially on mobile PCs without another GPU people are stuck to it.
    These might not be "real gamers" after your definition, but they still care for the performance of their hardware.
    And as this site isn't exclusively or primarily for "real gamers" the comparisons are appropriate.

    * Beside testing Intel, there are also tests with NVIDIA and AMD graphics comparing Linux and Windows performance:
    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag..._nvidia1&num=1
    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...on_win12&num=1

    * I guess "real gamers", after your definition, wouldn't care for tests on Linux after all, as the newest "AAA" titles are not playable.

    So it's hard to see what the point of your arguments and inappropriate and unfitting porn and head smashing analogies is.
    What kind of comparisons (GPU/OS/Driver/Game) would you suggest? What would be the Intention?
    Last edited by Ren Höek; 04-07-2013 at 07:14 AM.

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    Well, its hard to buy a laptop or desktop pc without integrated graphics, because almost every laptop or pc has integrated graphics, thats what we are forced to buy, thats how the biggest companies rules this world, and there is nothing i can do about it.
    Yeah, good for them, that they care, but its not like drivers will increase performance so much, that intel graphics will beat most of nvidia or amd graphics cards
    Its very easy - just dont anything stupid, and use items for actions it were made for.

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    can we see results from other benchmarks? Lightsmark, furmark, Unigine Heaven, Unigine Tropics, Unigine valley, OilRush? C4 engine?

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    There are plenty of better games that have both native linux, windows, and mac ports for benchmarking purposes. Technology has moved on in places like general purpose shaders and has moved away from the fixed pipeline. All the benchmarks are showing off is how the drivers are handling the older version of OpenGL. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the current driver progress is in the post OpenGL 2.x ie. OpenGL 3.x-4.x API.

    I think you should consider using something like Unigine technical demos or comparing the source engine games or practically any of the recent linux ports.

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    But anything newer would run poorly on Intel hardware to begin with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreatEmerald View Post
    But anything newer would run poorly on Intel hardware to begin with.
    I am sure it won't run great initially but consider on the Windows and Mac side of things the Intel integrated graphics are capable of playing quite a bit of newer games on low resolutions and settings. It just requires some experimentation to find newer games that test well. Anything would be better than the selection they are using now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheEmissary View Post
    I am sure it won't run great initially but consider on the Windows and Mac side of things the Intel integrated graphics are capable of playing quite a bit of newer games on low resolutions and settings. It just requires some experimentation to find newer games that test well. Anything would be better than the selection they are using now.
    Please list all those newer games that

    a) have equal-quality linux ports
    b) use OpenGL on all platforms, to have an equal comparison
    c) are free as in beer to benchmark, without requiring one to buy something

    FFS, Michael listed these requirements in more than one article recently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by curaga View Post
    Please list all those newer games that

    a) have equal-quality linux ports
    b) use OpenGL on all platforms, to have an equal comparison
    c) are free as in beer to benchmark, without requiring one to buy something

    FFS, Michael listed these requirements in more than one article recently.
    Good words, but :
    1) there is no equal quality multiplatform games, there is only multiplatform games, there is no way to calculate or guess if game quality is equal on all platforms.
    2) I know, directx rocks and puts opengl to dusts
    3) well, with that in mind, linux gaming is doomed, because almost no one is making free good games, even super mario on nintendo wasnt free.... or even more, two shitty things, that makes sure, that linux will stay in shadows forever, because its not the way this world is running around the sun - free, open source. If you are against it, then must be in one of those "most wanted - rewards for location info" lists
    4) a little bit more about testing - there is no way to test only one thing. When you test games, you are testing the whole system - drivers, os, games and other things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by startzz View Post
    2) I know, directx rocks and puts opengl to dusts
    May be hard to understand for you, but if Direct3D is slower or faster than OpenGL is totally irrelevant if you want to compare driver performance on different OSes, you need a game that can use the same render path on both OSes.

    well, with that in mind, linux gaming is doomed, because almost no one is making free good games, even super mario on nintendo wasnt free.... or even more, two shitty things, that makes sure, that linux will stay in shadows forever, because its not the way this world is running around the sun - free, open source. If you are against it, then must be in one of those "most wanted - rewards for location info" lists
    Did you even understand what was written in the post you answered to? No one is asking for free games, what is needed is a free benchmark. For example, Devil May Cry 4 or Resident Evil 5 both have free benchmarks available, but that doesn't mean that the games are free.
    Even funnier is that you, a random Windows user, can determine from this that Linux gaming is doomed, while multi-million dollar companies that have much more insight to the market, like Valve, Blizzard or Dell/Alienware, think the opposite.

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    there is no way to calculate or guess if game quality is equal on all platforms.
    I'll only respond to this, since Vim_User covered the rest.

    If the game is using GL on both platforms, and the driver is known to have very similar framerates (for example: Nvidia's blob) on all platforms, then you can easily measure the quality of the port. If the performance varies a notable amount, the port is badly done.

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