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Thread: OpenShot Switches From GTK+ To Qt

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    Gtk should be dead by now, along with gnome

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Sarmiento View Post
    Gtk should be dead by now, along with gnome
    This is stupid.
    Build everything on one toolkit (which is non-GPL due to CLA), and when MS comes to kill it, your are screwed.
    Becides, why would everyone alternativelessly want KDE? Qt and GTK both require about 40MiB of RAM to run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brosis View Post
    This is stupid.
    Build everything on one toolkit (which is non-GPL due to CLA), and when MS comes to kill it, your are screwed.
    Becides, why would everyone alternativelessly want KDE? Qt and GTK both require about 40MiB of RAM to run.
    Ms isn't going to come "kill" QT, please don't spread FUD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brosis View Post
    This is stupid.
    Build everything on one toolkit (which is non-GPL due to CLA), and when MS comes to kill it, your are screwed.
    Before anybody believes this lame troll:
    Qt is licensed under LGPL 2.1 and GPL 3 and when somebody tries to kill it, the entire Qt project becomes BSD-licensed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Sarmiento View Post
    Gtk should be dead by now, along with gnome
    Gtk is not used only by GNOME. It's also used by Xfce, LXDE, Cinnamon, Mate, whatever that thing is the SolusOS guys are building... Qt? Let's see, there's KDE, Razor-Qt... that's about it.

    And then there's all the applications that depend on Gtk (either 2 or 3). A lot of them are applications that don't have any real equivalent in Qt and no one is really interested in porting them to it. There's no good reason to kill Gtk. Diversity is a good thing here.

    IMO, what we really need is a sort of meta-toolkit, a library that people can build apps on, which can then use whatever actual toolkit - Gtk2, Gtk3, Qt, EFL, etc. - as a backend, and being totally transparent about it to the actual program. That'd be a good thing for attracting application developers who're coming from the windows/mac os worlds and want to develop for linux, it would give them a clear target to develop for, that would get their apps working in any desktop. It would also be good for the interoperability and collaboration between desktops and toolkits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dee. View Post
    IMO, what we really need is a sort of meta-toolkit, a library that people can build apps on, which can then use whatever actual toolkit - Gtk2, Gtk3, Qt, EFL, etc. - as a backend, and being totally transparent about it to the actual program. That'd be a good thing for attracting application developers who're coming from the windows/mac os worlds and want to develop for linux, it would give them a clear target to develop for, that would get their apps working in any desktop. It would also be good for the interoperability and collaboration between desktops and toolkits.
    Mozillas XUL and OpenOffice/LibreOffice's VCL are exactly what you are talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dee. View Post
    Gtk is not used only by GNOME. It's also used by Xfce, LXDE, Cinnamon, Mate, whatever that thing is the SolusOS guys are building... Qt? Let's see, there's KDE, Razor-Qt... that's about it.

    And then there's all the applications that depend on Gtk (either 2 or 3). A lot of them are applications that don't have any real equivalent in Qt and no one is really interested in porting them to it. There's no good reason to kill Gtk. Diversity is a good thing here.

    IMO, what we really need is a sort of meta-toolkit, a library that people can build apps on, which can then use whatever actual toolkit - Gtk2, Gtk3, Qt, EFL, etc. - as a backend, and being totally transparent about it to the actual program. That'd be a good thing for attracting application developers who're coming from the windows/mac os worlds and want to develop for linux, it would give them a clear target to develop for, that would get their apps working in any desktop. It would also be good for the interoperability and collaboration between desktops and toolkits.
    http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=128508 is that you Pete?

    This is not practical for various reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dee. View Post
    Gtk is not used only by GNOME. It's also used by [] LXDE
    About to be abandoned and the maintainer seems to join Razor-qt: https://groups.google.com/forum/?fro...qt/aRfqM_W_ODQ

    Quote Originally Posted by dee. View Post
    Cinnamon
    Doesn't use GTK at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by dee. View Post
    Mate
    GNOME fork

    Quote Originally Posted by dee. View Post
    Qt? Let's see, there's KDE, Razor-Qt... that's about it.
    Skype, VLC, BlackBerry 10, Ubuntu Touch, MeeGo, Tizen IVI,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Awesomeness View Post
    Skype, VLC, BlackBerry 10, Ubuntu Touch, MeeGo, Tizen IVI,
    +Hawaii .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Awesomeness View Post
    About to be abandoned and the maintainer seems to join Razor-qt: https://groups.google.com/forum/?fro...qt/aRfqM_W_ODQ


    Doesn't use GTK at all.


    GNOME fork


    Skype, VLC, BlackBerry 10, Ubuntu Touch, MeeGo, Tizen IVI,
    I don't really see how you can say that Cinnamon doesn't use GTK as it's based on Gnome, it's the default toolkit for the desktop, all the theming etc. is done via GTK, the file manager uses GTK...

    What does Mate being a fork of Gnome have to do with anything? Lots of things are forks of other things, that doesn't necessarily make them any less valid things.

    Skype, VLC etc. are not desktop environments. If we go on to consider all types of applications, then there are still tons of GTK apps, many of which still don't have any Qt-based equivalents, nor is anyone really interested in porting them to Qt. GIMP, Inkscape, Transmission, GParted, Firefox, just to name a few.

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