So switching for linux for gaming is also retarded. So your points are just stupid. Your desitions are stupid, so dont blame amd for your stupidness.
Who migrates from windows to linux, when he dont cares about freedom to play games? ???????
How can somebody so stupid. I mean you could migrate to linux, if you dont care tooo much about games, and its good enough.
Btw, if you dont pay the money for windows lisenses you can invest that money for a bigger grafic card.
I understand that you want say "fuck you" to amd because you want more fps with the drivers, but thats just the stupidest reason to say fuck you to a company.
Lets say it would be the other way around, lets say amd would have extreme fast linux drivers but very slow windows drivers.
People would either be totaly stupid and buy it, and dont know about the difference, or they would look a review, BEFORE they buy the hardware, and then dont buy it.
But everybody who would buy then amd hardware to play in windows games, and would bitch about the speed of the cards afterwards, when amd would not have advertised (this card has the same speed than the nvidia card for the same price) or something like that.
You cant magicly assume that each linux drivers must have the same speed than the windows driver?
Btw, even if you dont compare the intel driver to the faster amd hardware, the intel driver is even slower than the intel windows driver.
So again you have to say fuck you intel too.
BTW, who hinders you to buy a nvidia card, and sell your amd card in ebay or something like that?
I could see somebody saying to amd fuck you because of powermanagement and video encoding, but the last is now gone and the first thing is also a update coming. But "fuck you" for not enough fps is so spupid.
Whats then next, do you also say fuck you to amd when the freebsd drivers are not fast enough, or hurd drivers? You cant just except same level of fps for every os on the planet, and so not for this 2% desktop os Linux.
Because thats true, thats one reason more to except instead of that from companies to give out the specs, so 3rd party people write the stuff thats needed.
And it seems better free drivers are not needed that fast for amd hardware, it seems there are more 3rd party guys out there who develop nouvou in their free time then radeon drivers, but thats not amds fault they basicly hire everybody that makes some bigger improvements to the driver. Thats basicly more than we could hope for, but on the other side, they dont release ALL specs at the same time. (even now most of them shoudl be released).
And here NVIDIA fails, to deliver anything, you can say I dont care to much about your freedom, but even you must agree that if nvidia would release that driver always opensource it would have at least slightly advantages.
But forget it makes no sense to talk to some guy who switched to linux to play games to talk about freedom.
Especialy with a changable card I dont get why you would fuck amd, if you would have a notebook with a fusion or igp card in it I could understand that argument, that you dont want to buy another notebook just because of the gpu, but a seperate graphics-card? Just sell it, and invest the money you dont pay for windows ontop of that money and have a more expensive amd or in your case more likely nvidia card and shut up...
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I have intel 845, hd2000, hd2500, hd3000, nvidia 6100, 8300, 9600 gso, gtx280, ti560, amd 4200, mobility x1900, hd5850.
Nvidias proprietary drivers are sufficient only on g80-modern hardware. Old hardware support is bad.
Nouveau support is random. One can have on one card nearly everything and performs very good, on other card it crashes on daily basis.
AMD official catalyst, I don´t test.
AMD open source driver is better than nouveau, consistent over platforms, performance recently is very good. I can see this driver as ready for production level environiments, buts it has no dynamic powermanagement.
Intel opensource support is good, consistent, but breaks more often as amd from time to time. Currently its 3d peformance advantage over amd opensource might actually fallback heavily, as amd gained performance (from 30-50 to 50-90). Hardware-wise intel is weak for 3d.
AMD completely abandons official support for cards not too old. That's why they free up "part" of the specifications for the community to take care of this hardware. That is, you will not even have a bad performance with AMD official drivers. You "can not" install or use official AMD drivers in unsupported hardware.
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AMD is paying many radeon developers: Alex Deucher, Christian König, Tom Stellard, and there were several more along the way, like Cooper Yuan and others.
They are highly experienced developers who do 99% of the work for getting new hardware generations supported. The community also plays a huge role, with paid developers (Dave Airlie) and volunteers (Marek, Vadim...), and this is the way it is SUPPOSED to work!
I've stuck with AMD because of their commitment to FLOSS drivers. Sometimes the progress seemed slow, but it is catching up. Once OpenCL and powersaving are ready, the accomplishment of what AMD and the community have achieved will be absolutely astonishing. Fully featured, fast, stable drivers capable of OpenCL, OpenGL 3+, with UVD and dynamic powersaving support. All this while NVIDIA did NOTHING. Nothing at all.