Also, the internet is much more powerful than you think. Have you ever heard the phrase "information is power"? Read some Sun Tzu. All the greatest military geniuses have known for centuries that simple fact: who controls knowledge, controls how people think, and thus, controls how they act. Who controls knowledge controls everything. And the internet is a flood, nay, a tsunami of information and knowledge. Do you think corporations spend billions on PR-campaigns just for fun? Just because they like to maintain a reputation? No, they do it because they know that their reputation and image translates directly into financial assets. Do you think corporations pay huge sums to people to utilize facespace and other social media to spread PR(opaganda)? It's because the public opinion has power.
SOPA and PIPA got repealed because people took action and spread the word. ACTA, the same. And you sit on your high horse and keep condescendingly talking about "keyboard warriors" and whatever - maybe you feel so powerless yourself, or maybe you're too lazy to actually take action to influence things, and you want to convince yourself that it's ok because no one else can have any influence on anything either. Maybe you like to push others down to pull yourself up. But hey, keep on worshiping your corporations, keep on thinking that if you kiss enough corporate ass some slivers of their wealth and glory will eventually trickle down to you - meanwhile, those of us with some backbone are making things happen.
http://www.root-servers.org/ Most big providers are headquartered in the US, yes, but their actual servers are not in the US. So if there are laws that forbid DNS servers from running in the US, it still won't stop all of the rest. ICANN and co. would be just silly to not continue operating outside the US, because they would otherwise be out of business. And if they were somehow forced out of business, we still have NetNod, RIPE NCC etc. who would jump at the opportunity to take over the vacant niche. So no, no individual country can shut down the root DNS servers, and thus the internet.
Now, ICANN haz RIPE cheezburger?
1. Spun off from US Government
2. Located in US territory
3. Answers to US Government no matter what (US Department of Commerce)
4. Doesn't manage the root zones directly:
ICANN is nothing more than a puppet organization of the United States to give the appearance of an independent organization running the zones, but it's still very much under the United State's control.In July 2008, the U.S. Department of Commerce reiterated an earlier statement that it has "no plans to transition management of the authoritative root zone file to ICANN".
Bloat? Is it too hard to use "sudo apt-get remove" and "sudo apt-get install"?
Easy to install? I've been using Ubuntu then Xubuntu for 3.5 years or so (and never had any issues), I can't even install Arch... Also, I can install a *buntu in less than 30 minutes. Life's too short to spend hours on an OS install.
Last edited by Calinou; 05-14-2013 at 05:44 PM.
but just to clarify; I don't think Canonical is 'evil'. Personally, i find that definition to be laughable. I also agree that if you're going to call a company 'bad' - we need some clear examples. Now, that being said - i personally find Canonical to be a mixed-bag. (some good traits, some bad ones, in regards to the larger linux community / free software).
but a few examples over the years of things that annoy me about Canonical;
1. Spreading misinfomation and/or claiming credit for things which they had little to do with (or nothing at all); A few examples;
- Mark Shuttleworth claiming credit for things like 6month cycle (total obvious lie to anyone familiar with linux at the time)
- RHEL vs. Ubuntu in enterprise computing. (he did not make the distinction between gratis ubuntu in stats ~ which means he was essentially comparing apples to oranges, misrepresenting statistics in order to bolster Canonical/Ubutnu's credibility in the I.T world... absolute BS on Mark's part.)
- Claiming Unity existed before GS. (Unity isn't UNR and mark was claiming innovation, where there wasn't any).
- Wayland FUD from ubuntu/Canonical developers.
2. very low contributions to upstream projects, in which Ubuntu relies on... no surprise there. Even worse though, ubuntu/canonical tend to abuse some of these projects to made themselves 'appear' to have done more development than they have, or they try to do things like take money out of one project (gnome) and shuffle it into their own pockets; like they wanted to do with Banshee music player in 2011. Which is hilarious being as Gnome is a *non-profit organization*, while Canonical is a for profit company (who probably don't make much money at all, but instead try to steal any penny they can, again, from a non-profit organization...pretty pathetic stuff on Canonical's part).
3. Mark Shuttleworth was NOT honest or open with his objectives (monetization plans) for Ubuntu to begin with....and if you were around (in the linux community) when Ubuntu first came onto the scene (which i don't think you were), you would get what i am talking about. They presented themselves much differently, than today. (at least RH was always honest about their goals and are heavy contributors, unlike canonical).
4. Ubuntu ships spyware *enabled* by default, for monetary purposes ~ it wouldn't be so bad (arguably), if it was an 'opt-in' situation. but it's not - it's the other way around.
5. Re-inventing the wheel and/or fragmentation. ie t:hings like Bazaar or Mir (Wayland > Mir , Git > Bazaar).
I could think of more reasons/examples why some people aren't Canonical fans, but i don't want to put much time into this... and i think a few examples off the top of my head is enough to show why some people think Canonical is a sh*tty company, largely just out to exploit the larger community (whom they wouldn't exist without) to pick a profit.
Personally, i have no problems with Canonical making money at all... But i do have a problem with their business practices of being deceptive, inconsistent, not being HEAVY contributors to software from which they completely rely on, etc...
for me, personally - at the end of the day, it doesn't matter all that much, since i would never invest any of my own income into Canonical or Ubuntu... I don't particularly like their software, nor their OS and generally, i don't like their shadiness either... Luckily though, I have that choice though. BUT if i didn't, then I doubt that i would even be using Linux (at all) on my desktop, if it was an Ubuntu mono-culture.
Last edited by ninez; 05-14-2013 at 06:09 PM.