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    Default Ubuntu 13.10 Likely Switching To Chromium Browser

    Phoronix: Ubuntu 13.10 Likely Switching To Chromium Browser

    Yesterday evening I mentioned Ubuntu Linux developers would be discussing replacing Mozilla Firefox with Google Chromium as the default web-browser in Ubuntu 13.10. After the discussion today, it looks like this may very well happen...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTM3Mzk

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    I dislike chromium because its smooth scrolling is awful compared to firefox. for some reason chrome's smooth scrolling flag doesn't even seem to work on some webpages, where in firefox I've never seen anything like this happen, every page has the same consistent smooth scrolling. Its 2013, I expect my browser to have reliable smooth scrolling.

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    Almost every time I hear about Canonical employees decisions 1 thing comes to mind "Are they idiots? Or just uninformed? Isn't that their job, to get informed of the matters?".
    Ubuntu Touch is using QML 2, QML 2 is using V8 JavaScript Engine used by Google in combination with WebKit, it's not using WebKit itself.
    And if they will get informed better, Qt 5.x(most probably Qt 5.2) will switch from V8 to it's own JavaScript Engine(based on V8) optimized for things that QML 2 needs.
    "Let's switch to Chromium because QML 2 uses V8" - such nonsense. What kind of Idiots work there?

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    It sounds fishy to me as well that canonical claims to use Chromium on Ubuntu Touch. I'm sure they use a QtWebKit browser there and QtWebKit neither uses Chromium nor V8.

    Maybe they should switch to QupZilla.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Awesomeness View Post
    It sounds fishy to me as well that canonical claims to use Chromium on Ubuntu Touch. I'm sure they use a QtWebKit browser there and QtWebKit neither uses Chromium nor V8.

    Maybe they should switch to QupZilla.
    QupZilla? Seriously? I use the thing on an old Athlon XP powered PC running Razor-Qt and am very happy with it there, but that's because it's old hardware that can't really handle modern Firefox or Chromium. I'm a Firefox fan, but I'd still take Chromium over QupZilla on a newer system (aside: I feel the same way about Midori and Epiphany).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serge View Post
    QupZilla? Seriously?
    Yes, but: Before RussianNeuroMancer posted the link, I was under the impression that Ubuntu Touch will use QtWebKit.
    Considering that the argument is that both the Touch and the desktop variant of Ubuntu should use the same back-end, the obvious conclusion is to use a QtWebKit-based browser on the desktop as well.

    Turns out thanks to the link by RussianNeuroMancer the actual news is that Canonical plans to develop a toolkit-agnostic Blink-based library for use in GTK and Qt applications in both Ubuntu desktop and Ubuntu Touch.

    Quote Originally Posted by RussianNeuroMancer View Post
    Thanks for that. It clears the confusion. (Why is that link missing from the article?)
    To my surprise I actually like that proposal. Considering how much Canonical fucks up these days, this is a welcome change. Even though I'm not the biggest fan of Google's WebKit fork, turning Blink into something both Qt and GTK applications can (hopefully) easily use is great from a security POV as Google will just do all the patching work.

    Knowing Canonical I, however, fear that they fuck up the execution of this nice idea by releasing the glue library that sits between Blink and Qt/GTK under GPLv3-only+CLA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Awesomeness View Post
    I'm sure they use a QtWebKit browser there and QtWebKit neither uses Chromium nor V8.
    Just read it: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubu...it-maintenance

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    Well, Chromium has less issues with GTK+ than Firefox at the moment (font and menu rendering isn't mimicked poorly as in XUL). Even still, Chrome probably won't have GTK+ 3 in the cards for a while, whereas Firefox is actively pursuing a port which is showing some promise. One could also use the argument that Firefox's tab look is more reminiscent of Ubuntu's GTK tabs, but that's changing in Firefox soon, as well.

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