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    And yes guys, I know that MS can at least partially decrypt messages. I read the article. But the article even mentions itself that its not sure what EXACTLY is going on. MS may be "eavesdropping" on the decrypted messages on the received end, not on the sent end or the middle-man. Its an important note because it decides whether or not they CAN break the encryption. Thats why I -AM- really hopeful for WebRTC.

    What I havent yet figured out is how its gonna work... Is it gonna be IP based? Is everyone getting a WebRTC account now and signing into browsers? I'm all for Filesharing, video calls, screensharing, etc, in HTML and JS, im fine with it. But the "Who's Who?" question is a big one and I havent seen an answer yet (Admittedly, I may have just missed it. Links would be appreciated in that case )

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    Whether or not MS has the ability to eavesdrop shouldn't be of anyone's concern. First of all, I highly doubt they have their own employees listening in on every convo you have. Even if they do, what are they going to do about it? If you're not doing anything illegal, it might be an invasion of privacy but they can't do anything to you. Same goes for companies like google keeping track of your searches. What makes you think a multi-billion dollar companies cares about what type of porn you like?

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    Really, Google Talk is moving away from XMPP/Jingle? Oh come on.
    What does that leave us with, talking about desktop VOIP applications? SIP/SIMPLE?

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    @Ericg:

    there are no WebRTC accounts. When your browser wants to connect to another browser, it generates a little JSON object that contains all neccessary information for the other browser to connect to you. The WebRTC standard does not define how that JSON goes from one browser to another, so it's up to the JS to do that via AJAX/Websockets to central server, WebP2P connections to a third browser; essentialy you could even read out the JSON on the phone and have the other person type it into a textbox on the html page. If neccessary, a pre-configured server is involved to break through NATs. html5rocks has a nice explanation: http://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutoria...#toc-signaling

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    Quote Originally Posted by dstaubsauger View Post
    @Ericg:

    there are no WebRTC accounts. When your browser wants to connect to another browser, it generates a little JSON object that contains all neccessary information for the other browser to connect to you. The WebRTC standard does not define how that JSON goes from one browser to another, so it's up to the JS to do that via AJAX/Websockets to central server, WebP2P connections to a third browser; essentialy you could even read out the JSON on the phone and have the other person type it into a textbox on the html page. If neccessary, a pre-configured server is involved to break through NATs. html5rocks has a nice explanation: http://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutoria...#toc-signaling
    Thanks dstaub

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreatEmerald View Post
    Really, Google Talk is moving away from XMPP/Jingle? Oh come on.
    What does that leave us with, talking about desktop VOIP applications? SIP/SIMPLE?
    The existing Jabber servers didn't disappear just because Gtalk moved away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Detructor View Post
    It's useless to even post that. I've been on dozens of sites with dozens of links to real meat about the dangers of using Skype. Nobody cares about their privacy, there is no hope for that sector of subjects, just worry about yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schmidtbag View Post
    Whether or not MS has the ability to eavesdrop shouldn't be of anyone's concern. First of all, I highly doubt they have their own employees listening in on every convo you have. Even if they do, what are they going to do about it? If you're not doing anything illegal, it might be an invasion of privacy but they can't do anything to you. Same goes for companies like google keeping track of your searches. What makes you think a multi-billion dollar companies cares about what type of porn you like?
    Ah, the old "if you have nothing to hide" approach... but you have to understand, privacy is a goal in itself, there is a reason why it's a crime to open other people's mail... people must be able to trust that their private communications stay private, even if they're not doing anything illegal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schmidtbag View Post
    Whether or not MS has the ability to eavesdrop shouldn't be of anyone's concern. First of all, I highly doubt they have their own employees listening in on every convo you have. Even if they do, what are they going to do about it? If you're not doing anything illegal, it might be an invasion of privacy but they can't do anything to you. Same goes for companies like google keeping track of your searches. What makes you think a multi-billion dollar companies cares about what type of porn you like?
    What stupid arguments. Who said employees were listening in to the phone call? It's most likely a computer program that intercepts the audio, and can record the audio call/conversation to a hard disk. And of course people can play those audio files if they so wished, but again, why? Speech recognition - automatically scan through the audio files, to see if what you're looking for is there.

    Assuming the 'paranoid' conspiracy where the government/military are actually able to obtain these recorded audio calls from Microsoft, they can easily go through anybody's conversations.

    How do you know video is not being recorded as well? Also, if any audio/video calls are recorded, even if done automatically by a program, someone always has low level access. And that person might hear and see many things that people would wish to be kept private.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schmidtbag View Post
    Whether or not MS has the ability to eavesdrop shouldn't be of anyone's concern. First of all, I highly doubt they have their own employees listening in on every convo you have. Even if they do, what are they going to do about it? If you're not doing anything illegal, it might be an invasion of privacy but they can't do anything to you. Same goes for companies like google keeping track of your searches. What makes you think a multi-billion dollar companies cares about what type of porn you like?
    It isn't just about listening in. It is about them opening an https link you send. Depending on what links you send they can conceivably get into your email account, your bank, just about anything.

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