pfff I should stop reading posts about ubuntu stuff. So maybe thats the problem here.
But I am shocked how many ubuntu zealots are there.
So wayland will be supported/switched from every distribution more or less. Then there is Mir a ubuntu exclusive thing, but even ubuntu will support wayland.
But now is the time that this developers of kde and so on take manpower away from getting wayland support done, to support Mir? And if they dont they are amateurish? really?
focus on the "unpaid" thing... canonical pay this kubuntu folks or the kde folks a few million dollars each year and they are by definition because of that payment not anymore amateurish. And for that many you will get your hints and maybe even some development time to support your exclusive bullshit.An amateur (French amateur "lover of", from Old French and ultimately from Latin amatorem nom. amator, "lover") is generally considered a person attached to a particular pursuit, study, or science in a non-professional or unpaid manner.
And btw, if you have to missinterpret the word amateur (it basicly or primary means that you dont get paid for your work) then in your definition is it professional or amateurish to release adware software (ubuntu).
btw, as example if you today with X want to have a real full gnome-shell desktop on linux you have to have upgrade much stuff and change some stuff... you basicly cant have unity and gnome-shell on one pc with the full experience as example you have ot install newer nautilus and newer totem versions installed that kind of breaks at least a bit unity.
So where is the big problem if gnome-edition uses wayland instead of mir? First canonical wayland or writes a own think like wayland so forks effort and then they wine about that not everything now focus together on one (their) solution?
Are they retarded?
I made advertisement for ubuntu in my private circle, some people switched to it because of that, Know everybody who asks me I will warn about ubuntu and where I give support I switch to fedora/arch...
haha I found it really funny if really each program have to modified to work with wayland/mir (the x emulation is only a bridge thing, and I think the goal should not be to use that forever).
So Ubuntu did have advantage that debian did for them 90% of their work... and yes you can say thats ok so... dont reinvent the wheel a 1000 times. But now debian does integrade wayland but not mir... so their future kde versions and gnome-programm versions will all be compilied with wayland only support.
So if canonical is not able to bring the patches upstream to have mir support... they not only have to fork each of this projects they have to make their own packages... ok they dod repackage the debian packages anyway... but they use most of the time the same base package and add some patches on it... now they have to replace the base source so it will be difficult if not impossible to use the debian-packages as base.
So they are fuckin damned to work with upstream now... its not about beeing social or not... its about investing money at this point or invest 5-10x so much money by forking and make own packages for it.
They are totaly megalomanic